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Comments on: Jersey could go it alone http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/ News, Sport and Information from the Island of Jersey Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:47:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: caz http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1202 caz Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:26:13 +0000 http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1202 i say keep the 330 million for the new waterfront, we don't need a new one, it's fine as it is, you could give us all a million each and still have 220 million and it would solve the rumour that were all millionaires in jersey,and use the rest for the important needs the island has. how can you trust anyone over here with all the palavur going on, stand up you good people, we need you...life's not all about money,well not in my book anyway, it's just greed greed greed greed,. i say keep the 330 million for the new waterfront, we don’t need a new one, it’s fine as it is, you could give us all a million each and still have 220 million and it would solve the rumour that were all millionaires in jersey,and use the rest for the important needs the island has. how can you trust anyone over here with all the palavur going on, stand up you good people, we need you…life’s not all about money,well not in my book anyway, it’s just greed greed greed greed,.

]]> By: plumbob http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1200 plumbob Sun, 06 Jul 2008 18:05:22 +0000 http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1200 I am from the uk and have never been to the island or spoken to anyone from the island but what surprises me is the amount of anglophobia that the island has, if i think of jersey i think of it as part of the UK but with its separate laws e.t.c i dont think of the people to be that much different and that we need each other but on reading many articles it shocks me to see that anyone is even considering independence and that there is a lot of support for it. Maybe i need educating on the subject but how would be both benefit from such a drastic move? I am from the uk and have never been to the island or spoken to anyone from the island but what surprises me is the amount of anglophobia that the island has, if i think of jersey i think of it as part of the UK but with its separate laws e.t.c i dont think of the people to be that much different and that we need each other but on reading many articles it shocks me to see that anyone is even considering independence and that there is a lot of support for it.
Maybe i need educating on the subject but how would be both benefit from such a drastic move?

]]> By: HMS Victory http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1065 HMS Victory Tue, 01 Jul 2008 07:53:42 +0000 http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1065 When working for a major merchant bank on the Island, many of my clients (offshore investors) cited Jersey's closeness to the UK and the security that, that provided as a major factor with regard to holding their investments in Jersey! In my opinion! Once we say good by the the UK we can also say goodbye to many current investors! When working for a major merchant bank on the Island, many of my clients (offshore investors) cited Jersey’s closeness to the UK and the security that, that provided as a major factor with regard to holding their investments in Jersey!

In my opinion! Once we say good by the the UK we can also say goodbye to many current investors!

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]]> By: Chris http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1059 Chris Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:56:04 +0000 http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1059 Aside from the obvious pro's & cons it has been stated in your paper that the cost of independence will be in the region on £11.5 million pounds. Is it just me or am I being cynical when I say that, if it goes ahead, will be funded ultimately by an increase in GST as apposed to a reduction in public expenditure. Aside from the obvious pro’s & cons it has been stated in your paper that the cost of independence will be in the region on £11.5 million pounds.

Is it just me or am I being cynical when I say that, if it goes ahead, will be funded ultimately by an increase in GST as apposed to a reduction in public expenditure.

]]> By: Pearl http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1054 Pearl Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:40:37 +0000 http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1054 Given that on the last few years performance the States and the senior civil servants would find it hard to run a bath without calling in some lackey to deal with the tap issue I do not see independence as an option. After a few years of mismanagement, incompetence and waste we would be viewed openly as a potato republic. Given that on the last few years performance the States and the senior civil servants would find it hard to run a bath without calling in some lackey to deal with the tap issue I do not see independence as an option.
After a few years of mismanagement, incompetence and waste we would be viewed openly as a potato republic.

]]> By: Shane Loake http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1044 Shane Loake Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:16:46 +0000 http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1044 We should be independant, cant believe in this day and age its even up for debate. Its about time we had an elected head of state, not some one appointed by accident of birth, and certainly not some incompentent idiot appointed by the states We should be independant, cant believe in this day and age its even up for debate.

Its about time we had an elected head of state, not some one appointed by accident of birth, and certainly not some incompentent idiot appointed by the states

]]> By: Sid the Cynic http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1038 Sid the Cynic Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:37:43 +0000 http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1038 Here's a whimsical thought...If Jersey is independent, what about Guernsey and the other islands? Would we need passport control & currency exchanges when travelling between islands? And at least we wouldn't have to worry about defence policies. We already have all sorts of people's money here in the island's banks. We go independent and we can openly take ANYONE'S money and not worry about prying eyes. This will mean that every nefarious organisation will leave us alone as we keep their money for them. It's not such a bad idea except for the morals and ethics of the people running island. Here’s a whimsical thought…If Jersey is independent, what about Guernsey and the other islands? Would we need passport control & currency exchanges when travelling between islands?

And at least we wouldn’t have to worry about defence policies. We already have all sorts of people’s money here in the island’s banks.

We go independent and we can openly take ANYONE’S money and not worry about prying eyes. This will mean that every nefarious organisation will leave us alone as we keep their money for them. It’s not such a bad idea except for the morals and ethics of the people running island.

]]> By: Mickey http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1033 Mickey Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:57:33 +0000 http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1033 Why wasn't Ben Queree involved in this group? The man's a ruddy genius. Why wasn’t Ben Queree involved in this group? The man’s a ruddy genius.

]]> By: Peter King http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1029 Peter King Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:17:20 +0000 http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1029 Go independent. Then the French can invade and who will come to our defence. I don't see a Jersey navy or army anywhere. Oh and don't have a heart attack as you won't be flown to Southampton anymore. The Bailiff MUST go. With his brother! But he'll only go after he has stupid Art Museum built. Go independent. Then the French can invade and who will come to our defence. I don’t see a Jersey navy or army anywhere. Oh and don’t have a heart attack as you won’t be flown to Southampton anymore. The Bailiff MUST go. With his brother! But he’ll only go after he has stupid Art Museum built.

]]> By: Bernard Bigginton http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1022 Bernard Bigginton Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:48:23 +0000 http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1022 The people of Jersey must be given the democratic right to decide, by means of a referendum. The people of Jersey must be given the democratic right to decide, by means of a referendum.

]]> By: Tony Banner http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1020 Tony Banner Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:54:57 +0000 http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1020 With Britian in the position it is in and rapiadily going futher The Scottish independence debate, the position that will put Wales in, a very good time for Jersey to think about saying goodbye to UK. With Britian in the position it is in and rapiadily going futher The Scottish independence debate, the position that will put Wales in, a very good time for Jersey to think about saying goodbye to UK.

]]> By: Alphonse Le Gasteloi http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1018 Alphonse Le Gasteloi Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:33:23 +0000 http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1018 Pip raises a number of very valid points, but there are still more to worry about if Jersey should go down the road towards independence. At present, the UK government has at least got an oversight role to play, as far as laws and governance are concerned. However, without this and other checks and balances, where will the democratic process in Jersey go to? Our Chief Minister did not get into his position by strict adherence to democratic process. People joke about Jersey being a banana republic, but this could literally propel us into that realm. We have former mercenaries being allowed 1.1 k status, whats next? Robert Mugabe being invited over? At least if he is, Terry Le Main can offer him one of those lovely homes at Le Squez that are currently vacant! Pip raises a number of very valid points, but there are still more to worry about if Jersey should go down the road towards independence. At present, the UK government has at least got an oversight role to play, as far as laws and governance are concerned. However, without this and other checks and balances, where will the democratic process in Jersey go to? Our Chief Minister did not get into his position by strict adherence to democratic process.

People joke about Jersey being a banana republic, but this could literally propel us into that realm. We have former mercenaries being allowed 1.1 k status, whats next? Robert Mugabe being invited over? At least if he is, Terry Le Main can offer him one of those lovely homes at Le Squez that are currently vacant!

]]> By: Tony Gallichan http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1017 Tony Gallichan Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:10:16 +0000 http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1017 Hmm...I agree with Pip - this should have NOTHING to do with the Balliff. Also, in light of recent events, the people of Jersey need the help of the UK to fight certain areas of corruption. Imagine what things would be like if there was NO UK 'backstop'? Then they WOULD be able to get away with whatever they wanted. I used to be a believer in independence. The events of this year have shown me that we need the UK to try to keep our politicians - and those unelected people who think they can dictate - in line... If only they would... Hmm…I agree with Pip – this should have NOTHING to do with the Balliff. Also, in light of recent events, the people of Jersey need the help of the UK to fight certain areas of corruption. Imagine what things would be like if there was NO UK ‘backstop’? Then they WOULD be able to get away with whatever they wanted.

I used to be a believer in independence. The events of this year have shown me that we need the UK to try to keep our politicians – and those unelected people who think they can dictate – in line…

If only they would…

]]> By: James Knight http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1015 James Knight Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:24:58 +0000 http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1015 Mmm, I don't think closer links with Brussels is the way forward for island independence. The UK has surrendered its independence to Brussels, with over half of new laws being dictated by the EU. Is that what Jersey would want? Also an EU that included Jersey would probably not let us undercut tax rates in the UK. Mmm, I don’t think closer links with Brussels is the way forward for island independence.

The UK has surrendered its independence to Brussels, with over half of new laws being dictated by the EU. Is that what Jersey would want?

Also an EU that included Jersey would probably not let us undercut tax rates in the UK.

]]> By: Pip http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1007 Pip Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:33:27 +0000 http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/06/28/jersey-could-go-it-alone/#comment-1007 Why is the Bailiff heading this enquiry? Surely an enquiry so fundamentally important to Jersey should be lead by one of our elected representatives. Also, this constitutional matter should be put to the people in the form of a referendum after an informed debate once the enquiry has been completed. A referendum is a truly democratic tool which should be used in such cases. It would be a travesty to demote their use solely to that of an opinion poll on issues like fiddling with the clocks. Why is the Bailiff heading this enquiry? Surely an enquiry so fundamentally important to Jersey should be lead by one of our elected representatives.
Also, this constitutional matter should be put to the people in the form of a referendum after an informed debate once the enquiry has been completed.
A referendum is a truly democratic tool which should be used in such cases. It would be a travesty to demote their use solely to that of an opinion poll on issues like fiddling with the clocks.

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