PLANS for a new £106-million incinerator at La Collette have been approved by the States.
Members voted by 30 votes to 21 to approve the scheme, after almost two full days of debate. There were two abstentions.
The proposal was put forward by Transport Minister Guy de Faye, who spoke on the urgent need for a new energy-from-waste plant to be commissioned. He said that the price of the plant had rocketed compared to the £60-million plant the States could have commissioned in 2000.
The plans were strongly opposed by an Environment Scrutiny Panel, chaired by Deputy Rob Duhamel. He warned Members that approval of the scheme would ‘crowd out recycling initiatives’.
• Full report in Thursday’s Jersey Evening Post
Article posted on 9th July, 2008 - 4.44pm
19 Article Comments
Short-sighted, anti-recycling, environmentally damaging, unimaginative, hugely expensive and so
typically States of Jersey.
Europe moving forward, Jersey going backward.
Insane!
Another black day for Jersey, democracy and the environment. Despite all the advice, evidence and opinions to the contrary the Council of Ministers pushed ahead with what is clearly ANOTHER ill-thought out idea.
If all the mistakes, overspends & excesses of this government were added up then paid back, GST would never have raised its ugly head.
Good luck to the 30 states members who agreed to this new incinerator. This years elections are going to be very very interesting for sure!!!!!
WAIT FOR IT. ANOTHER TAX WILL BE INTRODUCED TO PAY FOR THIS. HOW ABOUT BEACH TAX CANT SEE THE TREASURY MINISTER HAVING MUCH USE FOR IT.SO HE WONT HAVE TO PAY…
My feeling is the Ministers have a hidden agenda
Babcock Wilcox Volund, Europe’s most prestigious incinerator company - Have pressed the Ministers as to why approval is agreed for a French standard design incinerator for £93.35 million against superior BWV technology submitted to the TTS for £65.8 million.
WHERE IS ALL THAT £27.55 MILLION DIFFERENCE GOING - AND TO WHOM ????????
Let us see the evidence, and I most certainly believe this should be investigated in the interest of the Jersey taxpayer - victim of a shameful, ignoramous decision by unqualified laypersons. Frankly I think this matter should be the subject of judicial review in the interest of honesty and financial probity.
I presume this is a energy from waste plant. If so this is recycling and for some materials has a smaller carbon footprint than what people traditionaly think of as recycling, taking into account collection, shipping and recycling methods.It should be used hand in hand with waste reduction methods. This is the only truly green way, not producing waste to recycle or dispose of in the first place.
Why put an incinerator in the middle of a fuel farm!!! I hold the states members who voted for it personally responsible when something goes wrong (AND IT WILL).
Oh my dear God. I am open mouthed in horror at yet another financial disaster on its way. This will NOT cost £106 million. This will cost more like £150 million. Jersey is haemorrhaging millions and millions of pounds due to a bunch of amateurs who would struggle to run a parish council in the UK!
What about proper recycling?
Has anyone heard of any coherent States initiative on the need to correctly sort and recycle our rubbish …. Or is the answer to simply burn everything?
i just hope this is not another
thing that goes over budget
and taxpayers have to pay
for your mistakes again
I would just like to point out some inaccuracies put forward by supporters of incineration that other technologies were un proven.
To clear up a few things, Anaerobic Digestion, far from being un proven has been in constant use around the world for over a thousand years. I think most of the problems will have been sorted out by now.
Bio gassification has been in constant use around the world for at least 300 years.
As the States themselves are supporting some recycling, they obviously regard this technology as proven.
My question is; what part of other proposals do they consider un proven?
Many States members used this excuse for rejecting other technologies but when defending the incinerator, site it’s cutting edge technology as a selling point.
The very technology thy have decided upon is the one that is unproven, by it’s very nature of being very new.
Does anybody else see the irony here?
Please States members, come clean and publicly declare your real reasons for this ill informed decision.
i’m local and one of the reasons i plan to leave this island is because of the people who run it. I can’t beleive we are not doing more to help the people recycle- think of what £106m would do to a recycling project?!!! Definately living in a backwards island here- wake up and look around you!!!! It is clear that people are doing their bit to recycle as much as possible- but it doesn’t help when all the recycling bins in Jersey are full!!!
send it all to France (or Guernsey).
The referred to engineering proposed for the Island by Babcock Wilcox Volund(one of the world.s biggest engineering companies) completely eliminates need for hand pre-sort recycling.
The MBT process is completely automatic. On entry over the weighbridge and entry to the plant machinery takes over and recovers everything useful for recycling.
The process does away with the need for bottle banks,plastic bottle bins,metal can bins, paper and card bins kerbside boxes or what have you..In fact all you need do is shove everything into your wheelie bin and that’s it !! The plant recovers organic waste and this is aerobically converted to biological fuel. As is paper card, garden waste,forestry waste, dried sewage sludge and some of the cling-film plastic- in fact anything but fossil derivatives.
Hazardous items including batteries are screened out by the process.
The result is a 17kJ/kg carbon neutral fuel for the Volund biomass, 7.3mW(e)Combined Heat and Power plant.The electrical output is part used to run the MBT plant with the balance exported to JEC.
This very environment friendly plant also provides thousands of gallons of hot water to local commercial premises for winter central heating.
The turbine exhaust steam is channelled to a Alfa-Laval 1000 tons per day sea-water desalination plant for potable, de-mineralized potable water for sale to JW
And the Senatorial reaction to this ???
“No thanks - we’d rather pipe the £30 million pounds saving offered by you down the drain, and see it squandered on a CNIM grossly over-priced, out of date incinerator - because we are Luddites and simply love the idea of wasting millions of taxpayer money “
Well done another cock up for the states to add to their list. Yes there were alternatives majority of which involved recycling technology. The EU are looking at approving regulations for recycling, the new incineration will only place jersey at 36% of a recycling initiative however, the proposed alternative would have put us at the top of the league table at 90%. But the States decided that to be environmentally unfriendly was the only answer and to cost all us tax payers an absolute fortune for an incinerator which may be made redundant in 10 years time due to the push for recycling internationally!! Something funny going on here I think…..
Quite right Tracy !!
You’ve hit the nail right on the head - We can go a bit better than 90%
Let’s say 95% !! - including USE of the CLEAN bio-ash residue.
This weighs 65Kg per 1000kg FROM THE VOLUND BIOMASS COMBUSTION
AGAINST
CNIM INCINERATOR, CONTAMINATED BOTTOM ASH / FLY-ASH / GAS SCRUBBER SLOPS - WEIGHTING 300KG PER 1000KG !!!
IS JERSEY LIVING IN CLOUD COOKOO LAND ?
YES SIREE !! - IF IT BUILD AN INCINERATOR
NO SIREE !!IF IT GOES FOR THE BWV ALTERNATIVE -
JUST THINK WHAT YOU COULD DO WITH THE £27.55 MILLION GUARANTEED SAVINGS THIS BWV “green” HOLISTIC,CLIMATE CHANGE COMPLIANT OPTION WILL PROVIDE !!
The difference between the £30M and £27.55M that I mention - is that we have added another piece of kit to make the BWV plant even more efficient.
The “Preferred bidder” French company CNIM in conjuntion with local company Camerons Limited(surprise! surprise!)price for their bog standard incinerator is £93.35M to which the States have added more - increasing the price to a massive £106.3M !!
All no doubt in accordance with recommendation of their technical adviser (Babtie Fichtner) who, after more than a year peeking at this and peekING at that; came up with the brilliant conclusion - BUILD ANOTHER MASSBURN INCINERATOR !!
In fact four companies were shorlisted for this contract - three of whom are mass burn plant builders and the fourth a company selling a gasification process technology. All of which are eclipsed by the carbon neutral, holistic BWV process.
The short-listed company Ener-G offering the gasifier process;is presently adding their technology to the Isle of Wight waste processing and resource recovery plant designed and built by our ART consortium engineers way back in the 1980’s.
This plant, as old as it is - is STILL WORKING today - with some modifications - as it was when built for the IoW County Council.
We wish Ener-G well with their effort to demonstrate energy gasifier engineering -supported by the UK government.
Being that Jersey is not beholden to OJEC / European Union laws under Protocol No 3 of the Accession Treaty with the UK
Babcock Wilcox Volund / Advanced Recycling Technologes / Alfa Laval Consortium will be delighted to put Jersey back on track with best practise waste disposal technology - and respectfully suggest that before contracts are exchanged proper consideration be given again to our guaranteed offer to save the Jersey community millions of pounds -
AS THEY SAY - “IT IS NEVER TOO LATE TO CHANGE COURSE WHE CONTRACTS HAVE NOT BEEN EXCHANGED”
This is ludicrous.
As a group of people currently working towards making a company more eco-friendly, the decision to construct a new INCINERATOR (not incincerator) is a waste of money, damaging to the environment and a huge step backward for the good of Jersey. This is further proof that, instead of setting an example, Jersey is completely ignoring the chances to move forward with the rest of the world. The states are once again providing evidence that they are throwing money away in the most incompetent ways possible (see waterfront, jersey eye), greedily stealing money from Joe Public to fund their (quite frankly) unnecessarily fat salaries and should be ashamed of themselves.
Can’t WAIT to vote on the new members of the states as my first voting session. Deputy Rob Duhamel seems to be the only competent member with an ounce of common sense of the states at the moment.
Guy de Faye’s nothing but bad news. Emergency need for energy-from-waste plant?
Yeah. Biomass maybe? Like they have in Guernsey.
You know, something that isn’t BURNING IT.