Islanders’ travel plans to be logged on UK database
Friday 27th March 2009, 2:56PM GMT.
JERSEY has told the UK government that the Island will take part in their e-borders programme, Home Affairs Minister Ian Le Marquand has confirmed.
Entering into the UK agreement could see local leisure boat owners and trawlermen having to submit their travel plans online or face a £5,000 fine if they fail to do so.
Senator Ian Le Marquand said that he feared Islanders could be forced to show passports to get into the UK if Jersey did not sign up to the e-borders programme.
However, Home Affairs stressed that the final details of the plans had not been approved yet and would need to be fully discussed with local boat owners and all relevant parties.
• Picture: Leisure boat owners could have to submit their travel plans in advance online or face a £5,000 fine
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What a joke – yet another exampe of weak politicians cow-towing to the UK !!!
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Fine! Take your passport, which no doubt any boat owner who takes their vessel to France or the UK will have.
There should be no need to fill in any forms or register with some e-borders scam.
This is all to do with 1(1)K s. The UK wants to know if they are sticking to their 60 days or whatever it is on the mainland. Make the 1(1)K sign up to this ridiculous idea.
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I would far rather show my passport at the boarder than have a foreign government hold all my details- especially with their data protection record.
We already have to show photographic ID, which for most people is their passport.
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The all intrusive u.k.state….spy cameras everywhere (brave new world), proposed I.D.cards
(nazi Germany),advanced plans submitted before leaving our own country(u.s.s.r.),monitoring of credit cards and mobile phones(u.s.a.),…….
Jersey people should fight all of this tooth and nail…we value our freedoms, many died to preserve them.
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Big brother strikes again. I am surprises they don’t just get everyone micro-chipped then they could monitor their every move without needing to spy on them like this. They could sell the micro-chip idea on the back of the war on terror and they could then do away with passports and credit cards etc as all the information would be held on the micro-chip.
A simple solution that would save lots of money for the state. Credit card fraud would be greatly reduced as thieves would have to hack your hand off if they wanted to access your back account, or buy something in a shop.
Welcome to the brave new world of 1984. You are not a person you are a cog of the New World Order to do with as they see fit.
I’m pretty sure I know what the trawlermen will say and it would be unrepeatable on here. However it wouldn’t be out of place in the States chamber! Another good reason not to visit the police state to our north.
Bertie if its really because of 1.1k’s then that’s another good reason not to have them here.
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This scheme shoud be stopped in its tracks, 24 hours notice to leave the island!
No, no no.
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If you are a boatowner you need to be concerned about Eborders.
When the scheme comes into action you will no longer be able to sail whenever you chose. If you wake up on a sunny Saturday morning and fancy sailing over to Guernsey for lunch, you won’t be able to leave the harbour unless you filed your exact travel plan with the UK government 24 hours earlier.
Eborders is the end of the freedom to sail as you please. It’s that serious.
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The UK under Gordon Brown is rapidly deteriorating to some type of Stalinist state with secret police and spy cameras everywhere, even in peoples dustbins.
Perhaps it is time for Jersey to look very carefully to our relationship with this country. We have to show passports before we are allowed on the aeroplane and with the UK id cards coming in soon will be obliged to carry our passports in the UK in any event.
This is a clear breach of our human rights. I don’t want to have to report my movements to a foreign government and I object strongly that our government should even consider implementing such a regressive and intrusive law.
Such legistlation should have died with the Nazi state.
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I notice in Europe there seems to be no discrimination. Through Calais or Schicpol or any any of the ‘external’ EEC borders, anyone with a heavy suntan gets the third degree. So if you want to vist UK, don’t go out in the sun.
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#9 Tony B
you are right about the suntan bit.
When I came to England to study all those years ago, someone asked slowly
“Do – you – speak – English?”
Royston B.
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Adrian; I could not agree with you more.
I know our eyes are drawn to the posh, modern, expensive (and in my eyes vulgar) yachts in the new marinas in town, but there are three times as many less opulent vessels around our island, belonging to ordinary folk. Many of these people actually have no access to the internet in any way shape or form. They love the sea, the coastline, the serenity of the open ocean, not stuck in front of a computer screen like us.
If I understood the full article in the JEP correctly, then the rule would only apply if you left UK waters and went to France. But how far away is that? 20 miles?
So to expect a retired couple who do not use computers in any way what so ever, to log on and fill out an online form to inform the UK gov of their proposed trip to Granville, is an absolute joke.
What of the RNLI? Our Inshore lifeboat has an operational range of 250 miles, would they need to tell the UK gov their movements?
Time for Jersey to go it alone, but on a completely different path that it is following at present.
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Cruising yachtsmen have always been required to inform the Customs/Immigration authorities of their intended destination, even a hop from Jersey to Guernsey. Old sea dogs have been known to give destination as Aukland, giving them the freedom of the seas.
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Has anyone started a petition against this invasion of privacy?
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these jobsworth in uk are losing the plot.they sit and dream what they can try and control next. and try to take away freedom after freedom from their citezens every day.all i can say is that i,m glad i,m on the way out,not on the way in as the future generatations will be monitored from dawn to dusk.their lives will not be their own unless something drastic happens and well earned freedoms are resumed
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This is all because the U.K is letting itself become a 3rd world county. By not controlling its borders a long time ago. Jersey is just following it into destruction by over population and over development. Jersy is becoming FUBAR!! Now we all have to suffer.
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Aw!As an old bean I can’t blame the UK actually, I mean, Jersey has been getting up their noses for a long time and quite frankly Jersey actively prostitutes itself as a haven for tax avoidance and is unlikely to change it’s view any time in the future. It’s what we do best… aiding and abeting tax avoidance…. we’ve only got ourselves to blame really….. nice beaches though!
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