Taken for a costly ride
Wednesday 15th July 2009, 3:00PM BST.
From Rodney Ison.
I HAVE noted with great interest the recent campaign to buy local. In practice I have supported this sentiment but now my views are rapidly changing as many of the local retailers are simply taking us for a costly ride.
I recently visited the Co-op to purchase a new bed as they were advertising double divvy and excellent prices. The bed which I selected was over £1,000 which was going to entitle me to a dividend of approximately 4%, if approved by the shareholders, which I could have back in approximately a year’s time and £40 worth of stamps to spend in the Co-op.
It appears that I was really taken for a ride, as the price charged by the manufacturer inclusive of delivery to Jersey to the Co-op was £460. Taking into account that the retailer and I both paid GST, this would show a mark up of over 100%.
Can the public really afford to support local retailers and pay these excessive prices? The buyer tells me he has excessive costs to meet. I pointed out that they are no different to any other local business. He also tried to point out that his company is owned by the shareholders and he thought it was right that I should pay this rip off price to subsidise other shareholders.
Our freestanding refrigerator is past its sale-by-date and I inquired from three of the largest electrical retailers in Jersey for a price for a specific model. Each one of these (Co-op included) gave me a price which only differed by £3.
Imagine my surprise to find that the same model was advertised on the Internet in the UK at exactly the same price VAT included. On further inquiry, I was advised that the mainland companies would deliver to Jersey free of charge and they would remove the VAT.
Hence, at least, three large retailers are taking the Jersey public for a ride by using the UK VAT price as the normal retail price, and we are urged to support local suppliers. It is time they stopped being so greedy, then they might get the support.
In the meantime I would urge all potential purchasers to compare local prices with the mainland and if they have to organise their own shipping to Jersey, it is a very simple matter and not the 15% cost the retailers would like us to believe and, if it is under the specified rate, no GST.
Perhaps the JEP might like to run a regular list of those companies who are blatantly ripping off the public.
Jim Hopley, chief executive of the Co-op, responded as follows:
As always, the subject of pricing is complex with many non-obvious factors coming into play. We have now fully investigated the detail concerning the pricing of the bed.
We believe the item is question was sold at a special price of £989 (UK suggested retail price – £1,320 less 15% VAT = £1,122). As indicated in the letter Mr Ison received, we did offer a further 8% discount off this price by way of Dividend and Double Dividend, therefore netting the price inclusive of 3% GST (£29.67) to £909.88.
You writer is correct in stating that the cost price of the bed delivered to the exit point (Southampton) was £460 but this is not a delivered price to Jersey.
We have significant onward delivery costs to bear to bring the product across the water, into store and onwards to the final recipient. To claim mark up in these circumstances of over 100% is salacious, especially when we now also collect 31/2% GST on the product for the benefit of the States Exchequer.
We believe we are fully competitive with all other major retailers of beds in the Island and could cite a number of similar products on sale elsewhere closer to the £1,200/£1300 mark.
Turning to the question of VAT, which is difficult to answer in the specific case without having full details of the model concerned. We do not charge VAT in any of our stores (food or non-food) as a matter of policy. We certainly watch what our competitors are charging and strive to maintain competitiveness at all times.
To fix our retail price, we take net costing on product (no VAT), allow for freight costs, add on GST and arrive at a sensible, but far from excessive, margin. This can at times be close to UK VAT inclusive suggested pricing, but this element forms no part of our calculation.
Of course, as already indicated, we do offer dividend permanently off all our sales, our way of returning a large part of our profits to our member customers who we have no intention of ‘ripping off’ as after all they own the business.
I would also be surprised if any UK retailer will deliver a bulky item such as a large refrigerator free of charge to the Channel Islands. Although there is no need further to charge VAT, any recipient of goods where the value tops £400 would be subject to GST of 3%.
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What the CO-OP man does not point out is that Jersey Post (using the ship to me service) would deliver the bed for £110 thus still saving the guy a lot of money. They will also deliver a washing machine for £55 which isnt bad as if you get the VAT removed this can cover delivery. I get all of my pet food online and some companies will deliver free to Jersey with VAT off, and this is for heavy items like 15kg bags. For example we get a dog food which costs us £49 online but is sold at the local vets for £67.
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You Sir, are again using the old Jersey retailing chestnut of “high delivery charges”. Whilst I agree that a single bed delivered to Jersey would indeed very expensive, do you honestly believe that we, the fare paying pubic (taken for a ride that is), think that each item is shipped separately? Perhaps in the last year we have looked up the word … shipping container.
You may indeed be competitive with all other major retailers in Jersey but that still doesn’t mean that the retailers themselves are competitive or offer value for money for local consumers.
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Sorry, but you cannot defend the indefensible. To be frank, the complexity of pricing is of no interest to me or anyone, so please don’t try.
It is the bottom line price that matters, and clearly many retailers from the UK can ship single items over our ‘expensive stretch of water’ far cheaper than local firms can do so in bulk. Says a lot for local business acumen.
Odd how so many items from differing retailers are so close in price (and so far out from anyone else outside of the Island). Now I wonder why that is?
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Just because the Coop is cheaper than other outlets does’nt mean that we are not being ripped off.If Mr Hopley has quote”Fully investigated the detail concerning the pricing of the bed”why can he not answer the question of VAT?He states that this is because he has not full details of model concerned?
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I have had some experience in retail, running my own shop here in Jersey for a couple of years. Shipping costs are expensive, but as pointed out by several people, there is no excuse for blatant profiteering. The charge incurred by shipping a container is uniform, and when shared out equally over the entire contents has a largely insignificant effect on the overall price to the consumer, well it did in our shop.
Jersey being an Island does tend for the retailer to ‘mark-up’ prices above the UK because there is a lack of choice. We cant simply drive to the next outlet. Some retailers here also have an unacceptable attitude toward the consumer, and when questioned why prices are so much higher than the Internet / UK do little or nothing to entice a purchase, ie offer reasonable discounts.
No one would begrudge retails making a reasonable profit, enough to support their families etc, but in this changing global marketplace, they will have to adapt to stay in business.
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