States reform: Members vote against referendum
Saturday 7th November 2009, 2:56PM GMT.
Politicians have voted against a public referendum that could result in the Constables and Senators losing their seats
PLANS to let the public have their say on removing Senators and Constables from the States have been rejected.
A proposal by Deputy Montfort Tadier for a referendum on the removal of the 12 parish Constables from the States was defeated by 29 votes to 17, and amendments to also ask whether all Senators should be removed was beaten by 26 votes to 16.
A further amendment to add further questions about cancelling the 2011 Senatorial election – thereby removing six Senators and reducing the States to from 54 to 47 Members – was beaten by 22 votes to 18.
After the debate Deputy Tadier vowed to fight on and wants to form an official group to press for reform. ‘Previous States Assemblies have demonstrated themselves incapable of any meaningful reform and this current Assembly is no different,’ he said.
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Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose!
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Yer gorra larf ain’t yer!! this was never going anywhere as the obvious choice for the people would be to vote out Tez and his cronies!!!
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if they cant make their minds up the only way foreword , will be a referendum, or outside forces telling them they have to do it.
what was the point of clothier?
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So there you have it a clear message from your government that they do not want you,the people to be represented the way you want,their behaviour suggests they don’t want you to be represented at all.just what they want,drunk with power some would say.more power to Montfort Tadier to fight on for change.what must be the condition of the consciences of people who cling to power knowing full well those they claim to represent would love them to be removed,they must have to convince themselves that it is really for our own good and bless us we wouldn’t know any better.so do as Nanny says.well it may take that to suppress your collective consciences .but the adults out here see through you and we want change,and won’t rest ’till we get it. The rumblings and signs are all appearing to those with their eyes open..watch out.for if you were not afraid you would have allowed us to vote on it,your days are numbered.
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States reform is needed.
The current House is completely unrepresentive.
The home parishes of St Helier, St Clement and St Brelade hold almost 50% of the population but have less than a quarter of the members in the House.
Jersey + Democracy = No Thanks!
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Turkeys voting for Christmas anyone?
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