Jersey likely to burn waste from Guernsey
Monday 1st March 2010, 2:59PM GMT.
Guernsey's waste is currently dumped at the Mont Cuet landfill site, which is likely to be full by 2019. Picture: Peter Frankland (0779354)
JERSEY now looks likely to burn Guernsey’s waste for the next ten years.
On Friday, Guernsey’s States agreed by just one vote to shelve plans to build a £93 million incinerator. The alternative suggested was that Jersey be asked to burn the island’s rubbish at the new plant at La Collette from next summer.
And leaked emails seen by the JEP between politicians and top civil servants in the two islands indicate that Jersey would be happy to accept Guernsey’s waste.
The emails, which were sent last year, appear to confirm that a deal could be worth £4 million a year to Jersey.
In one, Jersey’s acting chief officer at Transport and Technical Services, John Rogers, wrote to Guernsey’s Public Services Department stating that they would be ‘happy to develop this further and assist Guernsey in providing a joined-up solution’.
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Why not? There’s an old Yorkshire saying, “Where there is muck there is money.” Let’s charge our Channel Island cousins loads of money for burning their refuse.
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This really is a very good solution, and a useful stream of income for the island in recovering the capital outlay of the plant.
For thouse who question why the plant has spare capacity, this is to allow for fluctuations in demand, down time etc etc. Using something flat out day in day out will wear it out quickly.
Any operator of plant and machinery, including airlines, factor in some slack for maintenance and down time. Why any different with this piece of equipment ?
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Failed states candidate Guy De Faye says the incinerator is not too big,and he signed for it,now it seems it is so big we can burn two islands waste…
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Hehe sensational reporting to get a public response ?
Read the GP and whilst the doors have been opened to formally discuss the viability of export to Jersey the focus is clearly on waste reduction and a zero waste policy. I think you’ll find that whilst Guernsey would love to have the export option open, it wont be the prime focus of the waste strategy.
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I miss Guy De Faye because the Incinerator was the best and only solution we had and he stuck by his guns.
I hope he considers putting himself forward in next months by-election.
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Now that we’ve got this state of the art incinerator, let’s vie for contracts and much needed income in burning Guernsey, Alderney and even Sark’s refuse.
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‘Why not? There’s an old Yorkshire saying, “Where there is muck there is money.” Let’s charge our Channel Island cousins loads of money for burning their refuse.’
Sadly Guernsey is almost as deep in the financial mire as we are.
They will want a cheap cost price solution as they are broke and as we are desperate for the cash to fund our giant incinerator they will get one.
Only a £10M over run so far due to a failure to hedge against the Euro.
Plenty more failures and budget over runs in the pipeline!
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5 Rico.
I couldn’t agree more . Bring back Guy de Faye and the three new reclamation sites he’s been sketching up over the last year or so. The public really deserve more reclamation sites and perhaps some more iconic structures as well.
Has the recent rain made the bridge damp? Look out for Goats!Rico
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Pip # 7. There is another saying, “Don’t cry over spilled milk.” The £10M overspend has occurred and we can’t turn back the clock. What we can do is make use of this facility and earn much needed money for the Island.
I actually think the incinerator is a good option and is much better than land fill,or exporting the waste that can not be recycled.
I now live outside Jersey, but recall the old incinerator used the heat from fires to power a turbine to generate electricity. Can someone explain whether the new incinerator will do this? I hope so. Also wasn’t there a special filter fitted to reduce emissions?
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Blue Knight#9
“I actually think the incinerator is a good option and is much better than land fill, or exporting the waste that can not be recycled.”
I agree 100%
The new plant is called an energy from waste plant so yes it will use the heat generated to produce electricity, not cheaply as one would think but it does offset the running costs.
I think there is more to be made by filling the returning empty boats that bring the waste with something that’s more expensive in Guernsey than Jersey. Our recycled concrete aggregates fit the bill. I believe(but stand to be corrected)Guernsey’s quarry has a limited life and as the supplier (Ronez Guernsey)has a monopoly their product is extremely expensive.
Remember you saw it here first !
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Some us would not be so worried if this was the only over run on a States project.
Extremely rarely we have a headline in the JEP ‘States scheme comes in under budget!’
This happens so rarely I have taken to putting a flag out when it happens
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So there we are, is this a done thing, where is the rubbish to be unloaded, is it coming across on condor ferries, containers or covered wagons I can still remember the stench when they put the waste albeit temporary at La Colette when our own incinerator was being repaired. but not to worry just more traffic and of course we know whats good for Jersey thats what we are told.
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PJG # 10 agrees with ‘Blue Knight’. Good God, whatever next? I’d better stick to environmental issues rather than discuss law and order.
I do understand the green arguement about toxic waste, but surely it can not be beyond the wit of man, to mitigate against this. Surely the boffins can build filters in the chimney and can’t the ash be mixed with cement, or rendered, to build sea defences or something.
Thinking out loud here, but another idea could be for the heat generated from the incineration to heat boilers for central heating systems of nearby buildings. I recall seeing a similar system in Berlin in the 1970s.
Whether people agree with incineration or not, it is now in place; so let Jersey use it to its advantage.
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Blue Knight #13
Yes amazing isnt it ?
Still you had to get something right eventually (joke)
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PJG # 14. Yes, we can only fool some of the people some of the time and not all of the people all of the time. None of us can be fonts of all knowledge and remember – to err is to be human.
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Excellent, some common sence at long last. By far and away the most sensible solution for our rubbish problem. I am sure all the enviromental concerns about the new plant are greatly exagerated by the greenies as usual. Their only solution is not to do it in the first place which is fine in theory but impractical in real life which is what the rest of us have to deal with
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The whole point here is one of pollution,we have been told the incinerator is safe,as it has emission scrubbers and filters toxins,well only the large particles and as they don’t lodge in the lung and do the damage it is hardly a worthy claim..it is the small PM2.5 particles that are deadly,Dr Dick Van steenis report on incinerator deaths makes it abundantly clear, your health can be put at risk for three days after only one hours exposure if the wind blows the PM 2.5s your way..He came to Jersey and told those in control all the details.they ignored him,why..who stood to gain by ordering this hideous monstrosity which will now scar the landscape for the forseeable future, Guy De Faye claimed it was not too big yet now we are talking about importing garbage,so the Guerns,make the waste and we will inhale the toxins..does not look like a good deal to me in fact it is negligent of our Govt to do it to us..especially as the Plasma Gasifier option would have fitted in Bellozanne easily, a central location for lorries instead of which they’ll come into town from N.S.E.W right into the busiest road system we have adding to the chaos,the gasifier option was a mere 40 mill or so .produced 6xtimes more electricity and NO toxic flyash…..the garbage is not the only thing that stinks here.if you’re bothered ,ask the people who decided on your behalf.
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Truthseeker # 17. Your submission is very informative – where can we get more information on the history of the new incinerator?
Now that we have the incinerator at La Collette, is there any way they can improve the system, to mitigate against the emission of toxins? Maybe the money earned by burning Guernsey’s waste could pay for that.
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18 Blue Knight….As requested
http://www.ukhr.org/incineration/incinerators.htm
Makes interesting reading ,for as we know it is not so much what this Govt.is doing at times rather than what it does not want the punters to know that is so alarming to anyone with a social conscience.
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Thanks Truthseeker, I’ll definately have look at the link you sent. I am afraid a lack of transparency in government is all too common throughout the world – I heard someone mention the other day, that truth is a revolutionary act. The thing that annoys me, is people who make these errors still get rewarded.
Take care buddy – keep seeking the truth and letting us know what is really happening
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Before long Guernsey will get fed up of paying the crapauds to take care of their waste, and will look for ways to recycle more. So it’s probably a good thing.
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