Water tanker driver lucky to avoid injury
Tuesday 22nd June 2010, 2:58PM BST.
Motorists suffered long tailbacks this morning after the water tanker smashed into a granite wall at Rouge Bouillon. Picture: JERSEY FIRE AND RESCUE
MOTORISTS faced long delays this morning after a water tanker smashed into a wall on one of St Helier’s busiest roads.
The right side of the vehicle, which belongs to the Parish of St Helier, was severely damaged in the accident on Rouge Bouillon shortly after 6 am. But the driver walked away unharmed – because his vehicle was left-hand drive.
Another lorry driving in the opposite direction – towards the roundabout – suffered only minor damage in the accident, which happened outside the States police and Fire and Rescue Service headquarters.
It is believed that the water carrier might have clipped the tanker before it hit the wall.
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“The right side of the vehicle, which belongs to the Parish of St Helier, was severely damaged”
Who owns the left side of the vehicle then?
Oh and how the hell did that happen at 6am on an empty road.
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I second that Mulvie – who owns the left side of the vehicle?
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You say: “Oh and how the hell did that happen at 6am on an empty road.”
The report says: “Another lorry driving in the opposite direction – towards the roundabout.”
Have you seen, at 6am, how many drivers are consuming their breakfast at the wheel? How a red traffic light is regarded as ‘advisory’ rather tha mandatory? And … oh never mind!
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Numerous accidents are reported in the media, but very few drivers are prosecuted ? Why is this ?
Had this accident happened at 8.30 am, the outcome may have been very different.
Accidents are caused by negligence or mechanical failure. However, it is more lucrative for the Police to catch and prosecute drivers for speeding!
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Warren J…
Sounds like you know nothing. Majority of people involved in accidents are prosecuted if it is int he oublic interest. They get sent to parish hall and the centeniers then deal with it. Speeding is a traffic offence if you don’t want to get caught DON’T SPEED. And none of the money from speeding fines goes to the police. So how about having a dig at the care less drivers rather then the police for once. So many of you moan about the police but have no idea about the job and if yourr in trouble there the first ones you call…..
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Sorry There, Their, They’re couldn’t resist.
Dave comment 5 “So many of you moan about the police but have no idea about the job and if yourr in trouble there the first ones you call…..
I think you mean they’re the ones you call.
There – is a place
Their – belongs to them
They’re – abbreviation of they are.
Also only one R in your ( your spelling is yourr )
Assuming the rest of your post contains the same level of accuracy I think it can be discounted ( this does NOT mean made cheaper at the supermarket )
Go and buy a thesaurus ( book shop not dinosaur exhibit! )
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Driving without due care and attention! And probably speeding
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Mulvie mon vie thanks for helping out with my grammatical policing, but you failed to correct Mr Dave with his erronous use of “your” – quote, ” if yourr in trouble ” (sic)
Your – belonging to you
You’re – abbreviation of You Are
Tut! Three mistakes within the same sentence!
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Mulvie Le Phew #6
This is a site where people express opinions on a thread.
WHY OH WHY do you anoraks have to turn it into an English lesson?
Dave #5 may have made some spelling mistakes, so what. Unless of coarse you don’t have the intelligence to read pass the mistakes and understand what he meant?
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9 PJG – Unless of coarse you don’t have the intelligence to read pass the mistakes and understand what he meant?
I’m hoping the grammatical error wasn’t deliberate
Coarse – rough in texture
course – following the ordinary way or procedure
WHY OH WHY do you anoraks have to turn it into an English lesson?
Because I have an expectation that basic English comprehension be the minimum standard on any forum used by adults who have been through the educational system.
How can anyone expect to be taken seriously if their command of their own language falls below what can reasonably be expected from a primary school child?
Look if you are thick or somehow managed to bypass the educational system in your formative years there are websites that will do the work for you, try http://www.thickastheycome.com
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PJG #9
*Course not coarse
Sorry had to be done
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Mulvie Le Phew et al.
Are these corrections really necessary?
Yesterday, I wrote ‘interveiw’ in one of my posts, that doesn’t mean I’m not fit to write on here, I simply hit the wrong keys.
With regard the educational system…the other day I was ‘exchanging views’ with a graduate who told me that he was “academicly” prepared and I was a “hypocrit”…a graduate!
I really should have said something (for his own good), he might write that one day in a job application letter…but correcting him seemed like too much trouble for too little gain.
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Spelling Bee Champ, you missed “pass”!
Well, it’s like this PJG. In my schooldays we almost got our knuckles rapped if we didn’t learn to spell. Part of the selection process for getting somewhere in life was mastering basic English. What can be galling for some, who endured that regime, is seeing people doing all right for themselves without bothering with the niceties of an education.
Whilst grammar and usage can be complicated, spelling is either correct or incorrect and easy to check. Typos are another matter entirely, for example, Born Warrior’s “interveiw”. They are often difficult to spot in a draft, especially if one types directly into the comment frame on here. Most typos are excusable and some can be entertaining.
“Hypocrit”, which we see much too often, is an example of poor learning.
Multiple spelling mistakes and misusage of common words usually speak volumes about the perpetrator.
PJG, are you suggesting that there is something wrong with expecting a reasonable standard? You seem to have fairly establishment views on most subjects, why not on spelling as well?
Mulvie, your last three sentences could not have put it better!
Born Warrior, they might write that way in a job application but the graduate reading it might not know the correct spelling either! Some leeway would have to be given if it ever becomes acceptable to apply for jobs via SMS texting.
Finally, I have to say that standards are generally high on this forum. Many others are deservedly parodied in “From the Message Boards” in Private Eye.
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………..er back to the actual story, lets just be thankfull that no one was injured, and trust that the cause of the accident is established, and lessons are learned !
( Dave, in tonights JEP was the Highlands College prospectus – I suggest you have a look !)
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You Anoraks just couldn’t resist it could you ?
This just goes to show what petty little characters you are if the only way you can get your jollies is to ridicule someone “you feel” is in someway inferior.
Of cource I was taking the pi**.
And you lot bit!
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Can you akonras raed this
I cdnuolt blveiee that I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd what I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno’t mtaetr in what oerdr the ltteres in a word are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is that the frsit and last ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can still raed it whotuit a pboerlm. This is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the word as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? Yaeh and you awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!
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C Le Verdic 13.
During my career, I have had the opportunity to work with ‘brilliant minds’ (economists, researchers, engineers and outstanding individuals from all fields), all with one thing in common – they didn’t know how to put their knowledge into words…so they employed me.
My job is translating knowledge into language. Therefore, I never give importance as to how individuals express their thoughts and ideas (even though I am aware that some have great difficulty). And although you may believe spelling is important, I do not, nowadays, software programmes eliminate these little imperfections.
PJG 16.
That’s plagiarism!
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Agreed no. 17.
Spelling has nothing to do with intelligence or ability to communicate – my G.P. cannot spell (but he is an improvement on the last one who couldn’t write)
Adults who get annoyed with spelling errors are probably:
i)Junior clerical workers (one level up from manual workers), who wrongly see spelling as sign of their superiority
ii)Some(a few) english teachers
iii)People with asperger syndrome
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Plagiarism or not, Born Warrior, I couldn’t be bothered even trying to read much of PJG’s post. Maybe my variety of Asperger’s (don’t you love all the latest “Autism Spectrum” piffle covering just about every form of childhood behavioural problem?) makes me skip over text like that.
I was thinking “What a laugh, PJG must have taken ages to type that out” but now it seems possible that he lifted it from somewhere else.
Either way, the example hardly manages to prove its own point as most of the garbled words used in it aren’t readable by scan reading!
One day, software might solve all spelling problems but at present it lets through an awful lot of out of context words, correctly spelled though they are in another context!
PJG’s ‘Of cource I was taking the pi**.’ line puts me in mind of people who come up with “Just testing” when caught out. Always easy after the event.
I’ve never looked upon you as inferior, PJG. You have always gone to adequate lengths to convey your superior attitude. How could I know you well enough to argue with your self publicity?
Who’d ‘ave thought where a simple lorry crash could lead. Hours of pleasure for all us nitpickers including the anti-nitpickers.
I can understand people justify being correct, but why waste time justifying being incorrect?
(E and OE)
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Born Warrior #17
“That’s pliriagasm!”
Is it ?
I thought it was bad spelling !
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to another Dave,
*Adults who get annoyed with spelling errors are probably:
i)Junior clerical workers (one level up from manual workers), who wrongly see spelling as sign of their superiority
ii)Some(a few) English teachers
iii)People with Asperger syndrome
I am none of those, but when I read a sentence, I like to think that the words translate the writer’s actual intention.
Spelling oversight can have serious consequences, I know of a case where approval was granted for a change of use of a building to a place of cultual activity, and in the context, every reader’s subconscious mind had corrected it to cultuRal activity. Because the contract was printed, the word was not picked up as a spelling mistake or as being ambiguous, the human mind of every reader corrected it as a matter of course in the context, and a place of worship was created.
Out of interest, if you type CULTUAL in Google, it will ask you: Did you mean CULTURAL?
All words are to be read and given their full meaning.
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C Le Verdic
“I” do not “expect” a reasonable standard of spelling and grammar from people whose education and circumstances I am not aware of.
I like to think in this island, anyone, yes anyone, is allowed to voice or post their opinion and be listened to, not ridiculed.
If someone makes a spelling or gramatical mistake surely those of us who are privelidged /lucky enough to have received a full education or had rich enough parents to have been sent to “better” school or have worked hard to improve these skills should make alowances and listen to that opinion, not discount it because it does not come up to ones personal elitist standards.
Your
“Because I have an expectation that basic English comprehension be the minimum standard on any forum used by adults who have been through the educational system.”
AND
How can anyone expect to be taken seriously if their command of their own language falls below what can reasonably be expected from a primary school child?”
Is elitist and insulting, and makes me think you are a prig ( I looked that one up in the dictionary “a person who obeys the rules of correct behaviour and considers himself or herself to be morally better than other people” (oops is that Plagarism ?) does that ring any bells ?
It shows you are a self centred egotist who has no compassion for the strugles and vicissitudes your fellow man may have to endure.
Tell me C Le Verdic can you recondition your own car engine or replumb your house can you fit a tap washer or mend a fuse ?
If not, do you think these tradesmen look down on you ?
This site is for the exchange of opinions on island life. Why dont you use your self expressed supirior intelect (“Part of the selection process for getting somewhere in life was mastering basic English”) to communicate with your fellow man and not give in to your jeolosy (“What can be galling for some, who endured that regime, is seeing people doing all right for themselves without bothering with the niceties of an education”).
For your info I left school at 14 years old, I make no apologies for any Syntax, semantical, gramatical, punctuation or spelling mistakes in this post.
If you can not understand my meening then you have missed an opertunity to recieve hints on becoming a better human being.
Rant Over
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C Le Verdic 19.
Re: PJG’s ‘Of cource I was taking the pi**.’ line puts me in mind of people who come up with “Just testing” when caught out. Always easy after the event.
Yes, a bit weak I must admit, but maybe he’s a keen golfer and he meant: “Off course, I was taking a pi**”…
Now that is understandable! I mean, no-one would do such a thing on “the course”…not even PJG!
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I think correct use of grammer is important, if you can’t spell or use words in a contextually correct manner you appear thick, it says a lot about you.
If you struggle with spelling use spell check or other grammatical tools, there is no excuse it’s plain lazy.
The idea that we can dismiss it as not important undermines the educational system, does it not matter if people can’t do basic maths either?
The words in question are 5 letter, 1 syllable words, they are not complex or rare, if a person can’t spell a 5 letter word I wouldn’t employ them to sweep the floor.
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PJG. How about addressing your comments to the person who actually made them?
On this occasion I will forgive you for calling me a prig(by proxy) as I fully endorse Mulvie’s comment(#10).
Of course I do all those and more repair and maintenance tasks myself, tradesmen don’t get a look in round my place so I’ve no idea whether or not they would look down on my abilities. I can’t speak for Mulvie though.
Fortunately I had the benefit of an excellent free education in Jersey, long before the finance industry provided the wonderful schools that it allegedly does today – it was down to John Le Marquand, Charlie Brown and Wimberley’s dad in those days.
Since then I have also used every opportunity to learn more from all manner of sources including your worthy self (those brake pipes again!). I have a huge amount of useful knowledge and,now, thanks to Google etc. I can find out even more. Happy days.
By the way, check out your understanding of “pass” versus “past”. It has appeared again on another thread. I feel sufficient sympathy for my fellow men not to wish to see you ridiculed further.
Best not to rant either. It could lead to an early grave or could override ‘an opertunity to recieve hints on becoming a better human being’, as well as leading to slapdash procedures such as addressing bile to the wrong author.
The section which I did write (”Part of the selection process for getting somewhere in life was mastering basic English” and ”What can be galling for some, who endured that regime, is seeing people doing all right for themselves without bothering with the niceties of an education”), I stick by. You were not obliged to read “me” for “some”. That is why I try and choose my words carefully. All part of my self training in lifeskills.
Moving on..
Nice one, Born Worrier #24. Almost letter perfect, shame you didn’t give it the once over!
Many do spell grammar that way (frequently when referring to schools of that ilk).
I don’t always check too well and as this forum doesn’t offer an editing facility there is not much one can do except rue mistakes which show up after posting!
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Well said no 22.
C Le Verdic’s comment “don’t you love all the latest “Autism Spectrum” piffle covering just about every form of childhood behavioural problem” reveals his attitude to those less fortunate in our society.
I expect that people who have Asperger syndrome find his comment deeply offensive.
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Not having a go at this driver, because don’t know the circumstances. But regarding large vehicles on our roads I am sick of seeing lorry drivers eating and drinking whilst driving, few know what their indicators are for and they should slow down when entering narrow areas and not expect motorists to mount the pavements. Who is teaching these people? We should have tel no’s on the vehicles as in the UK to report them to their bosses if you are not happy with their driving standards.
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Is this really newsworthy……?
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Dave,26. Your righteous indignation has spurred me into apologising. I hope I have not upset any genuine sufferers.
I took it in good part when ‘another Dave’(18) chose to diagnose us nitpickers with ‘asperger syndrome (sic)’ perhaps you didn’t find his comment a problem?
My comment most certainly reveals my attitude to the way in which a spectrum of disorders is conveniently used to excuse bad behaviour from unruly spoilt brats who are not Asperger’s sufferers but have never been pulled up over anything by their parents.
Anyone who reads my posts can hardly fail to notice that I consistently side with the less well off in the island and abhorr the go getter culture which has spoiled the Jersey way of life which so many now miss.
Although no longer at work I look after the interests of some of ‘those less fortunate in our society’ through my work as a trade union steward and we have a learning programme up and running to help people who didn’t get a head start at school with spelling, grammar and articulation. Would some of you prefer that a lowering of basic skills was encouraged? Perhaps it is a ploy to keep society divided by ignorance in Jersey?
Oh, I forgot, trade unions are not popular with many of our regular contributors!
I hope that the tanker driver is in a good union!
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whit a binch off wierdos!!!!
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C Le Verdic 29.
C Le Verdic, Trade Union Steward, eh!
Let me introduce myself – “Born Warrior” – great believer in Trade Unionism, no less.
Pleased to meet you!
By the way, keep up the good work!
The less fortunate should always be given every opportunity to improve. Your efforts in this area are all important, as they can rekindle interest in learning and help the disadvantaged to gain courage and try for better things…for themselves and for their children.
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Yep. Into health and safety, particularly asbestos related, and protecting final salary pensions as well!
Might need a bit of moral support from time to time, Born Warrior. Some of these subjects are not always popular in “we’re all right”(wing, especially), union bashing, Jersey.
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baz 30.
Elo Kettel, Pot here…pleased ta’meet’ya!
By the way, only weirdos write on’ere, so “Welcome to the club!” [;)]
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With spelling like that, Dave#5 must be a policeman.
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