St Malo: ‘Drunks ‘will end up in jail’

Saturday 31st July 2010, 3:00PM BST.

St Malo police have warned that they will not tolerate trouble-makers

St Malo police have warned that they will not tolerate trouble-makers

ISLANDERS are being warned they face a night in jail if they cause trouble in St Malo Harbour after police launched a zero-tolerance policy on drunken behaviour.

French officials issued the warning following several incidents where drunken Islanders have caused disturbances while waiting to board the ferry home.

In the latest incident, three drunken youths aged 16, 17 and 18 narrowly escaped a night in a French jail after causing problems at the harbour.


  1. 1
    Simon

    Good, nice to see some action being taken about drunken louts.
    Jersey police – take note; you all earn far more than the French police, it’s time you stopped hiding in Rouge Bouillon and went out on the streets and did something.

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    Geraldine

    Once again France get it right – there should be zero tolerance on drunks – we love St Malo and the people and are ashamed of these drunks!

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    Blue Knight

    I’ll bet the drunk and dosorderly yobs in St. Malo, will be able to compare the difference in the way the Gendarmerie and provincial cops deal with them, to the kid glove treatment they get courtesy of the States of Jersey Police.

    Now I wonder if they have Tasars? I’ll bet the French don’t whinge as much as the public do in Jersey.

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    Tobias

    Bravo!
    Now how about our police do the same over here?

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    Pat

    Things are going from bad to worse on the island. How sad. I’m so pleased I moved from Jersey after reading all thats going on there. I used to be proud to say where I was born. Good Luck to the sensible beans left there.

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    DoubleD

    The French police should not need to warn trouble-makers. When visiting France you should realize that certain behavior is not going to be tolerated.

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    Leah Holmes

    Even better would be to put them in cells and then transfer them to Italy, the police over there take even less cr*p!

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    yobs

    I go to St malo every fortnight during the summer and normally stay overnight. Have made friends with alot of local bar owners there and many pals who work on Condor. They really hate Jersey day trippers and the Restaurants will turn away a crowd as its bad for buisness. There are alot more police on the beat there than i have ever seen and their to protect against Jersey scum that ruin eveyones day out there. VILE!!Normally crowds of finance workers all gobbing off around their streets and eateries. Well done St malo cops arrest the culprits and how awkward to the boss on Monday morning when not at work cos i made a prat of myself on a day out! Grow up Jersey or at least seek re hab

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    Barb Dwyer

    Blue Knight 3.

    Re: “I’ll bet the drunk and dosorderly yobs in St. Malo, will be able to compare the difference in the way the Gendarmerie and provincial cops deal with them, to the kid glove treatment they get courtesy of the States of Jersey Police.”

    You’re stereotyping AGAIN!

    European Police ALL BAD, Jersey/British Police ALL GOOD…very biased!

    I’ve lived and worked in Europe and I can vouch that the majority of police there are extremely nice and helpful. So push your ‘ghost’ helmet up and back and take a long ‘objective’ look before tarring all European police with the same brush!

    Barb

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    Chris P Bacon

    I remember in Jersey in the 80s or 90s, they had a dedicated Licensing Unit of about six Police Constables and a Sergeant. They used to patrol the nightclubs and pubs and woe betide anyone who was disorderly either inside or outside licensed premises. They’d all get locked up and presented to the Magistrate.

    I worked with the Militiary Police in Germany and our tactics were if there was a punch up involving drunken squaddies, was to let the German cops get there first. They’d beat the hell out of the brawling Brits and all we had to do was pick up the pieces.

    I have no sympathy for people who go out, get drunk and cause trouble. The French should be invited over to Jersey to show our police how to do things, if they aren’t doing their job properly. They used to, but I hear things have gone down hill somewhat in the past decade.

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  11. 11
    Sum ting wong

    I still dont know why the Jersey police get paid a fortune to “never be seen” and only appear hiding in a safe countryside corner,waiting to catch an unsuspecting motorist driving at 22mph in a 20 mph zone.

    People are getting abused everyday physically verbally or otherwise.Not to mention getting kicked in,and “not” a POLICEMAN in sight!

    The French have the “right” attitude and i salute them for locking up the Jersey retards always shouting abuse on a daily basis.

    The police “cannot” be doing there job if people like myself cannot walk the streets without abuse on an almost daily basis.

    Then again its the Jersey way to turn a blind eye to everything thats going on.

    Well done once again to the French police for earning there money and allowing decent folk the right to walk the streets without hassle.

    Anything goes in the dump known as Jersey!

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    Paul

    Oh come on, this is the only reason people go to St Malo on these office day trips and thats to get drunk. Why else would anybody in their right mind re-visit the same part of France so many times? Its sure not for the food, casino or shopping anymore but the wine, the bars and maybe the beach. These Custome Officers need to mellow out or people will stop visiting.

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    BS Deluxe

    Barb Dwyer

    Why the attack on Blue Knight?

    The way I read his post it seems he is all for the french coppers handing out a bit of punishment…as opposed to SoJ who do nothing!

    I don’t think he was slating the european law enforcers at all….unless I have completely mis-read his post?

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    Blue Knight

    Hello Barb # 9. Where have I said anything harsh about the French police? I just said the S.o.J.P. treat people with kid gloves….there is nothing wrong with robust enforcement.

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    Blue Knight

    BS Deluxe # 13. Thank you for springing to my defence. As you suspected, I wasn’t bemoaning the actions of the Gendarmerie or French provincial cops. I was however, apparently unsuccessfully, trying to illustrate the reported current poor performance of the S.o.J.P. with regards to sorting out drunken louts.

    Barb # 9. I feel really hurt. Clearly you enjoy picking on a poor defenceless and somewhat aging retired cop.

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  16. 16
    Mogit

    What about we let the French police use them to clean out their public toilets – he he he !!!!!

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    Barb Dwyer

    Blue Knight

    Ooh, I’m so sorry for picking on you!
    I promise I won’t do it again…at least until next time! ;)

    Barb

    BS DeLuxe

    You understood BK’s post perfectly but, what you don’t seem to understand is that the police (whatever their nationality) have no right to manhandle people. It is their duty to ensure that lawbreakers end up in front of a Judge…unbruised!

    By the way, anyone know the definition of ‘Drunken behaviour’? Could ‘falling about laughing’ be considered as such?

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    Blue Knight

    Mogit # 16. Je Ne Sais Pas Pourquoi. If you come up with suggestions like that, the French cops will put your name in their little black book and on your next visit say to you, “Allez en prison Monsieur Mogit.”

    Don’t forget, it’s the European Convention on Human Rights, and Article 4 – prhibits servitude and slavery!

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    Tobias

    17 “police have no right to mishandle people”

    Personally, I’d disagree. If they break the law, they forfeit their rights. Whilst I certainly would not advocate criminals receiving a beating from the police, there’s nothing wrong with the constabulary being ‘rough’ with them if they resist arrest. The kid gloves treatment they’d receive here would mean 15 police to get one drunken yob into the cell just to ensure that the poor offender doesn’t suffer a broken nail; whereas, as Blue Knight correctly mentioned, the French police would have no qualms about using physical force to subdue the drunken louts. Fair play to them.

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    Blue Knight

    Hello Barb # 17. You are right, the police shouldn’t use unnecessary force on people. I am totally against gratuitous violence.

    Unfortunately there are those occasions when there is no alternative to using physical force, especially when people are fighting one another and you have to break up the fracas. Look at Section 3 of the Criminal Law Act 1967; it says “A person may use such force as is reasonable in the circumstances in the prevention of crime, or in effecting or assisting in the lawful arrest of offenders or suspected offenders or of persons unlawfully at large.”

    If one of your loved ones was getting a thrashing from someone, you wouldn’t expect the cops to stand ideally by and do nothing – you’d want them to intervene and protect your relative / friend. If someone was causing a disturbance outside your home at 3 am in the morning, you’d expect the cops to move them on and if they were non compliant minimal force might be required to achieve this aim.

    I guess we probably agree on most things, but just view situations from a different perspective.

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    Toochin Cloff

    Sum Ting Wong @ 11:

    “The police “cannot” be doing there job if people like myself cannot walk the streets without abuse on an almost daily basis.”

    Where do you live, The Bronx?

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    paul

    Lock them up then fine them and bar then from travelling for 6 months.

    I agree with Simon, where are the police in St helier? I never see any on foot patrol and very few cars patrolling the streets.

    Too much paperwork keeping them inside instead of keeping the streets safe and dealing with these yobs

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    Blue Knight

    Barb # 17. Apologies, I ignored your earlier question on drunkenness. Believe it or not police officers are deemed to be experts on drunkenness and they can prove this to the court by describing a person’s behaviour. I used to use the mnemonic, ‘B.A.G.S’., breath(his / her breath smelt of intoxicants), action (he / she waved his / her arms about wildly ), gait (he / she was unsteady on his / her feet – they kept falling over), speech (his / her speech was incoherent or slurred ).

    Admittedly some of these symptoms can also indicate medical conditions and often a police surgeon or forensic medical examiner as they are sometimes called, will look at an arrested person, to determine if they are ill. Every case will be looked at on their own merits – as they say.

    There are several offences linked to drunkenness. Believe it or not it is an offence for a person to be drunk on licensed premises. Also a licensee and / or his servant can commit an offence of they permit people to remain on licensed premises if they are deemed to be ‘Brahms and List’.

    Then there is the offence of being drunk and incapable. This is where a person is so drunk they are incapable of looking after themselves, or could be a danger to themselves or another person.

    The offence of being drunk and disorderly is where a person show symptoms of drunkenness and is disorderly. The disorderly behaviour is typically someone swearing, using obscene language, threatening other members of the public (including the police).

    If you are just giggling – as is the want of Barbs – than I’d hope the cops would just humour you and pull you leg a bit. Of course if you were so loud and you were waking up the neighbourhood, I am afraid you are in danger of spending the night in the cells, unless you kept quiet on being asked to do so.

    I hope that answers your question – please give me your address, so I can send my bill for this legal advice.

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  24. 24
    Jersey Boy

    Sum Ting Wong @ 11

    You get abuse on a daily basis walking down the street?

    Seriously?

    I think either you have a wild imigination or you are going out wearing a dress or something lol.

    dont get caried away slagging if Jersey. Its not perfect but its not that bad. jeeez!

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    LJM

    St Helier police should take note and work upon doing something about the regular drunks who frequent the Parade Park. I passed on more than one occasion and there’s been trouble.

    Puts me off taking my little one to enjoy the park and never mind the bad impression it gives visitors to this lovely island!

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    roger mark wayne

    The situation relating to drink offences is no worse in Jersey than anywhere else in Europe and the UK mainland, remember Jersey is a tourist spot where drinking too much can be expected by tourists the small proportion of locals who go on a daily bender is just that a small proportion of people. The Police do deal with this problem effectivly and are not to be confused with social workers. It is the tax payers money that finances the Police who use these funds as effectivly as possible without making this issue a tax burden on Jersey taxpayers. Education on drink related matters is possibly the only real deterrant.

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    Ivor Arthur Brain

    Wouldn’t it be nice to see the headline, ‘Jersey Drunks will end up in jail.’ Instead of which we get, ‘Police hand out lollypops and give a slap on the wrist to those misbehaving’

    I can recall living in St. Helier and having to listen to all the shouting and screaming when pubs and pubs turned out after closing. That’s when I decided enough was enough and I moved to St. Brelade. It was difficult to get a good night’s sleep in town. I am told it’s not a lot better now, but the police do little to stop those who misbehave – why do we pay them so much to do so little?

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    Templeton Peck

    Don’t know what people see in St Malo, nothing to do other than get drunk! They should be grateful for the business Jersey give them, spending a fortune on food and drink there! I’ve always called in “Little Jersey” as if you walk around you will recognise loads of people you know from Jersey. Theres more to do in Poole or Weymouth, not a patch on Brighton!

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    JB

    I was only commenting yesterday to a friend about this. It must be odd to be bombarded with drunken yobbery from little Jersey each week during the summer months but really is it that bad? Minority of people cause trouble and are confronted by the law. How is this different to anywhere else in the world?

    You all need to get over yourselves with all this moral self-righteousness. Jersey is one of the safest places in the world. There is no trouble here worthy of comment. The police seem to do a better job now than before when they used to be over-zealous in charging people for the most minor of offences – before that person is placed in the stocks (JEP Magistrates reports section) for public defamation.

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    JB

    Ivor Arthur Brain
    “Police hand out lollypops and give a slap on the wrist to those misbehaving’

    I can recall living in St. Helier and having to listen to all the shouting and screaming when pubs and pubs turned out after closing.”

    Shouting and screaming? Hanging’s too good for them. You certainly live up to your username don’t you Ivor?

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  31. 31
    small money

    the french crs are not to be messed with either, they take no prisoners, but quell unrest.

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    Barb Dwyer

    Blue Knight 23.

    Re: “I hope that answers your question – please give me your address, so I can send my bill for this legal advice.”

    Aaahhh! You want my address eh…
    …for the bill eh? Cheeky!
    I’m afraid you’ll have to settle for a “Thank you”. I only wanted to this information (free of charge of course), because I often go to St Malo and I’ve never seen any drunks. However, I have seen people (from the Jersey shores) laughing and joking just a little too loud…so I was wondering what the Gendemerie and their British counterparts considered ‘Drunken behaviour’.
    And now I know! :)

    Barb

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    PM

    I honestly can’t believe that the comments on this article have turned this post in to just another opportunity to slag off the local Police.

    Seriously if you think the job is that easy and they get paid so much for doing nothing then stop moaning and go and sign up!

    Pathetic.

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    Blue Knight

    Barb # 32. Your gratitude will suffice. I’ll go without my fee just this once – just for you. :-)

    I imagine the laws in St. Malo will be broadly similar to those in Jersey, but – dare I say it – the Gendemerie will be far more robust than their Jersey counterparts. So make sure you don’t become too raucous when visiting France or you could be calling on me to post your bail.

    Take care Barb….. and make sure you are a good
    Mrs.Dwyer if you get too tipsy (Oh and if you can’t be good, be careful)

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    Pugwash

    Some readers need to spend a weekend in any Town or Village on the Mainland or indeed elsewhere on the Planet to remember how easy going Sleepy Jersey really is !
    Get out a bit more and rememeber rowdy teens have been living it up since man first stood up on two legs !!!

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    Ivor Arthur Brain

    P.M. # 33. I have a number of mates in the police and they themselves admit that they’ve lost it on the streets and aren’t as assertive as they could be. I’ve also seen a fall in standards for myself. They blame it on poor leadership.

    Pugwash # 35. You are obviously not outside clubs and pubs that the week end. It is as busy in St. Helier as it is in major towns in the U.K.

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    Blue Knight

    P.M. # 33. I am sorry to say mate, but being in contact with former colleagues, who are serving officers and retirees from S.o.J.P., the gerneral opinion is that standards have gone down the tubes in recent years.

    I am told there is none of the robust style of policing that there once used to be and that leadership from supervisors and the middle management is weak.

    Folk also tell me that morale has been left in tatters – I am not questioning the intentions of many of the lower echelons, but if you haven’t got the support and leadership from the top, you aren’t going to achieve as well as you could do.

    Of course this is only anecdotal, but my information comes from a broad spectrum of sources and I think it is pretty credible.

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    orson cart

    On the early morning trips to St Malo is it really necessary to open the bar on the boats as soon as they are clear of the pierheads, also the allowing of people to consume their own alcohol on board does not help the situation, Blue Knight did you join the police in 1967 or 68?.

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    Barb Dwyer

    Blue Knight 34.

    Oh Blue Knight, I don’t go to St Malo for the booze, I go for the shops…and I’m NEVER good when I go Shopping! We ‘Barbs’ rarely are…

    Barb

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    Blue Knight

    Orson Cart # 38. Pourquoi?

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    Orson Cart

    Blue Knight#40 I thought I saw in one of your posts that said ‘I joined the force in 1967′, then in another I thought you said 1968, I could be wrong on 1967., did you do your initial training at Nutfield in Surrey? I went there in 1967

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    jj

    Its not the police who are giving out a slap on the wrist for bad behaviour it is the pc do gooders with their human rights and god knows what else they believe criminals should be allowed.

    It is because of these do gooders that the beat police have to spend so much time filling out paperwork for even the most minor arrests. Without all the pc jersey/britain do gooder paperwork they would be back on the beat sooner after an arrest, hence you would see more on the beat.

    If a policeman makes an arrest they have to fill out so much paperwork so as to cover their own backsides in case some lawyer starts using human rights and do gooder laws against them and the arrest.

    The more pc Jersey becomes the less bobbies on the beat unless you employ more to take to the beat whilst the others are sat indoors filling out paperwork.

    I am not a policeman by the way I am just telling it as it is and trying to explain a problem they face. I very much doubt they all joined to spend their time filling out paperwork.

    There is no room for common sense in this pc world we have been forced to embrace!

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    Jean

    Nothing surprises me about Jersey anymore

    Last week, I was walking from Chambers up to Snow Hill when a yob stinking of alcohol asked me for a cigarette. When I said no he spat at me, the filthy lout actually spat on my dress!

    I was absolutely horrified, I’m really at a loss to understand why Jersey has declined so rapidly in recent years

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    Blue Knight

    Orson # 41. When I joined in the late 60s, training was done at Sandgate in Kent. If you were in the job in those days you’ll recall such personalities as James Axon the Chief Officer, Joe Berry the uniform Chief Inspector and Ted Cockerham the Detective Chief Inspector,plus George Shutler the Detective Inspector. Mr. Shutler was the invigilator at the entrance exam I had to take, which was English and arithmetic. My medical was undertaken by the then police surgeon, Dr. David Scott-Warren…….

    Police officers then were a different breed to the guys and girls in the job today. We were only allowed to ‘detain’ prisoners and had to get a Centenier to make the official arrest. It was only with the Police Force (Jersey) Law 1974, that the ‘Paid Police’ got the power of arrest – now that was the Jersey way.

    For me the halcyon days of yore, were in the 70s, 80s and 90s. The drunken yobs in the island in those days got short shrift from us then. How about you, what are your antecedents?

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    PM

    Blue Knight 37

    I have also heard that morale is low. I am sure you would agree that it will be very hard to boost morale when as a profession the men and women of sojp are constantly being slated in the press.

    I’m sure there are a lot of people who give a lot to the job and are doing it for the right reasons and i feel that occasionally it would be good to show them some support. It’s the negative comments people remember so when all the comments seem to be negative it must be a tough environment to work in.

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  46. 46
    harry

    Man, I have been one of those drunks more times than I care to remember.

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  47. 47
    Blue Knight

    P.M. # 45. Assessments of an organisation’s performance must be honest, otherwise they would be pointless. The idea is to highlight problems, to learn from them and look at ways to improve. Yes the H.M Inspector of Constabularies’ report gave a clean bill of health, but sins can be hidden and we have all heard of ‘lies, damned lies and statistics.’

    Unfortunately in a high profile job like policing, you are going to always come in for some criticism – it has always been thus.

    There always used to be a group of highly professional, highly motivated and dedicated officers in the lower echelons – they performed well irrespective of the often poor management. The problem today seems to be the S.o.J.P.’s morale has taken a battering, from that I have been told was “The management from hell.” over the past nine years.

    The States need to find an inspiring leader for the S.o.J.P, not just a person – who on paper – who is a so called highly qualified senior manager. They need someone with fantastic people skills who can repair the damage that is said to have occurred. This person – man or woman – is a rare commodity.

    In the meantime, S.o.J.P. will just have to do it’s best. The dedicated officers will have to put in all their best efforts to provide an excellent service for the people of Jersey – you have to do that with little thanks and the continuing criticism. I wish all the guys and girls at Rouge Bouillon all the very best and hope that improvements are just around the corner.

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    orson cart

    Blue Knight#41, by going to Sandgate in Kent tells me you joined in 1968. D.C.I. Shutler was also the invigilater when I took the english and maths entrance exam. Same doctor for medical, dental exam by a MrBarr. We were mercilessly ribbed at Nutfield for not having the power of arrest,just detention. My first shift Sgt was Ray Medder, with Cpls Percy and Sutcliffe.Then later Sgt Huchet. I was teamed up with the late great Roly Jones to learn the beat. If my memory serves me correctly we used to have most beats covered on most shifts, not like today, an officer on the beat today is an endangered species. Do you remember the Scots Bears?. Thanks to the J.E.P if you post this.

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  49. 49
    Blue Knight

    Orson # 48. None of the guys you mentioned in your posting would tolerate drunks around the town.

    Do you reacall the grip type device, used instead of handcuffs? They soon put the ‘naughty folk’ in their palce if the decided to offer resistance and put up a fight.

    Yes I recall the ‘Scots Bears’ – they could be a handful.

    Barb Dwyer – I couldn’t resist this; in my office this morning, my colleagues were speaking about a film clip on a T.V news item. I understand it showed the C.R.S. in France, being heavy handed with some lady who had a child with her. Evidently they dragged her along the ground on a blanket she was sitting on and a youngster was seen to emerge from beneath the blanket – I haven’t seen it myself yet, but knowing it is likely to spark a debate I thought I’d mentionit to you. :-)

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    Toochin Cloff

    JJ – 42

    Whilst I acknowledge your right to freedom of speech (a human right) I would be grateful if you would clairfy your rant and explain exactly who the do-gooders are who you allege make policeman fill out paperwork rather than go on the beat?

    I for one think it is right that policeman are accountable for their actions, otherwise we would go back in time. I for one detest the wide powers police have to stop and search the public.

    Most lawyers only become involved in situations when the police act unprofessionally or illegally. I am sure if you were beaten half to death by a police oficer, the first thing you would do is contact a lawyer.

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  51. 51
    pugwash

    Arthur Brain , this aint the Bronx chief.
    Get on a plane and see some of the Big wide world me Laddy !

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  52. 52
    Barb Dwyer

    Blue Knight 49

    I’ve seen it – look for “French Police Under Fire After Video Shows Them Manhandling Immigrant Women And Children Protesting Demolition Of Apartment Building (VIDEO)”

    Here’s the comment.

    In France, a video showing African women and babies being dragged away by riot police has been shown on TV news channels, causing public anger.

    Police officers, trying to clear illegal immigrant squatters in the north of Paris, were seen to push and pull a baby away from an African woman.

    The footage, shot in July, was taken from an incident in which police were told to get tough on both crime and immigration.

    French President Nicolas Sarkozy has now been accused of far-right leanings following the incident.

    Recently speaking in the city of Grenoble, the scene of recent ‘rioting’, Sarkozy promised to strip immigrants of their French nationality if they commit a serious crime.

    He has refused to apologise for the force used by police, saying: “I take responsibility. French nationality should be able to be withdrawn from anybody of foreign origin who has threatened the life of a police officer or a gendarme, or any other person in public office.”

    Did you manage to see the one on Youtube of the British police officer (at G20) hitting a young girl in the face with a shield because she was chanting “This is not a riot”? We could go on and on…

    I only wish we could bring back boys like the young village bobby who used to stop by our house for ‘a quick cup of tea and a warm’ when he was on the night beat…radio on at all times!

    Barb

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  53. 53
    Blue Knight

    Barb # 52 You’ll doubtless be surprised to hear that I agree with you 100%. I feel that the actions of the police officer, whacking the young woman with his shield, at the G20 protest, was totally unnecessary. She apparently posed no threat to him and his conduct was unbecoming of a police officer. There are unfortunately rotten apples in police forces throughout the world and some are worse than others.

    I remember the days when the States of Jersey Police would put out six constables on foot patrol in St. Helier. I fondly recall pounding the beat in all weathers, chatting to the public.

    One memory I am sure you’ll enjoy, is when I walked along the pavement in Val Plaisant on a day after there had been a heavy snow fall. There was ice on the pavement and yours truly was dressed in all his police finery plus accoutrements. Gingerly making my way on the path set aside for foot passengers (the blooming pavement ain’t it), I slipped on the ice and promptly sat down on my well padded rear end. This caused much amusement to bystanders, so all I could do was get up, doff my helmet and bow to the crowd. I received some applause and then I continued on my way back towards Rouge Bouillon Police Station.

    Alas that was many years ago in another era and I now am just another has-’bean’……but then to be a has-been, you must have been ‘someone’. Au revoir Mrs. Dwyer….perhaps you aren’t so barbed after all. :-)

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    Ivor Arthur Brain

    Pugwash # 51. I have travelled extensively thanks and I think you find that many foreigners think that the Brits are pretty uncouth. Sterotyping maybe, but we have a poor reputation for bad behaviour abroad. Why do you think the police in St. Malo are commenting on the problem? It’s not beacuse the good Jersey people were playing Tiddlywinks.

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  55. 55
    Tamboerskloof

    Alcohol costs more than just money.

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  56. 56
    Pip Clement

    ‘Alcohol costs more than just money.’

    So does love and almost everything else in life.
    The love of another human being can drive us to distraction and ambition can make fools of us all.
    The trick is to enjoy your passion while not becoming a slave to it.

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    Ivor Arthur Brain

    Pugwash # 51 The J.E.P. reported on the 4th of August ’10 “A GANG of drunken teenage girls who kicked and punched a terrified 57-year-old man appeared in Youth Court yesterday.” -

    Now Captain are you that one tha is aware of what is occurring on your doorstep?

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    C Le Verdic

    #53 ‘I fondly recall pounding the beat in all weathers, chatting to the public.’

    I remember that policeman. He used to chat with us ‘public’ quit naturally, almost human!

    Now I realise he must have been Blue Knight. Or ZBD or Chris P Bacon or Sentinel de Nuit or Ivor Arthur Brain… They all look the same to me. Must be something to do with the Sandgate training!

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  59. 59
    Blue Knight

    C Le Verdic # 58. ZBD was from the Magic Roundabout….nothing to do with me. Ivor Arthur Brain (Poor chap), Sentinel de Nuit…never heard of him.

    You clearly have a vivid imagination. I imagine you will attribute your detective work to syntax or morphology, but you are quite erroneous. Cest la vie; ‘Almost human’ indeed.

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    brian cant

    alcohol doesn’t even cost money
    you can make it yourself
    a big bucket, some sugar, yeast and some flavour.
    nettles, lemons, sloes, rhubarb, ginger, whatever
    yum!
    there’s a medlar tree i have my eyes on!!!

    seriously. alcohol should be an expression of terroir, not a factory produced product. it’s consumption should connect you more closely with the world, not put you out of it.

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    orson cart

    Blue knight #42 Yes I do remember the grips I personally did not like them I remember a few members of the shift buying the snap on ratchet type,.going back to the drunks in St Malo, I went there a few years back on a stag do,I do remember the price of the drinks being very expensive eg around £2 for 25cl draught Kronenbourg, so I don’t know who these people are who cause trouble but they must be high earners

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    Juan Sheet

    I know who Blue Knight is and I don’t believe he is one of the other characters you name.

    However BK, as to syntax or morphology, I find all police officers use the same and are therefore difficult to tell one from another.

    “I was stood on the corner before proceeding in a northerly direction…”

    “his eyes were glazed, he was unsteady on his feet and his breath smelt of intoxicants”

    “One yellow coloured chain…”

    I think you know what I mean BK ;)

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    Mike Oxlong

    Who goes to St Malo anymore??

    After going a few times in the 80′s and 90′s you have seen everything. Expensive shops selling rubbish, expensive beer and expensive food. Rude locals and business owners….What’s to like?

    St Servan is nicer.

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    Blue Knight

    The Blue Knight is taking a sabbatical – maybe I’ll hop across to St. Malo to see how the Gendarmes do things; I could have a few glasses of Calvados. Take care everyone :-)

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    pugwash

    IvorBrain…#57 Firstly i hope that Chap is ok now.
    But `Gangs of Teenage Girls Terrorizing Middle Aged men in Jersey` eh!!
    Tut Tut me Laddy ! Jersey Badlands oh no no no

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    CJ

    Travel to St Malo 4-5 times a year and each time the return leg on the ferry is spoilt by drunken idiots swearing and behaving badly in front of families. Tell Condor staff who are happy to turn a blind eye to this behaviour and sometimes make matters worse by serving them more alcohol.

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    C Le Verdic

    #62 “I know who Blue Knight is and I don’t believe he is one of the other characters you name.”

    Your choice, Juan, but BK halfheartedly attempted to cover his tracks when first rumbled but hasn’t bothered to keep that up consistently. Syntax and morphology, BK? Nothing to do with it. Way off track.

    His evasive replies lead me to wonder if he probably is named Dave as has been suggested by someone else from time to time.

    “I was stood on the corner…”

    I don’t imagine that DCI Shutler would have stood for that in the exam! That widespread solecism wasn’t so common in those days. Would it have featured in the notebook of such a literate policeman as any of the aforementioned?

    ““One yellow coloured chain…”

    Intriguing.

    Blue Knight is probably doing the right thing taking a sabbatical. He needs to distance himself from the honey trap being set by Barb.
    I hope he has not gone to Jersey to seek her out.

    Wouldn’t it be fun to learn that they were seen drunk in St Malo together!

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    Juan Sheet

    I have to say though C.Le Verdic, the super-hero nature of some of the cops (and ex cops) screen names on here do make me chuckle. It does reflect how I know a lot of them feel about themselves.

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    Barb Dwyer

    C Le Verdic 67.

    Oiy you! Accusing me of setting a honey trap for Blue Knight, the one I’m after is Born Warrior…

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