The problem is not too many candidates, but too few voters
Monday 27th September 2010, 3:00PM BST.
From Nick Le Cornu.
The recent proposal by the Privileges and Procedures Committee to introduce forfeitable £500 deposits for candidates in all (contrary to your article JEP, 17 September) States Assembly elections, including Deputies and Constables and, in those for Senators, to require two nominators from each parish, is motivated by a backward looking anti-democratic spirit.
Deposits were introduced for Westminster elections in 1918 to deter frivolous candidates and continued ever since for all elections in the UK, except for local government, parish and community council elections.
Following a court case in 2001 argued on Human Rights grounds, the Irish Republic abolished deposits for Dial and European elections. A 2003 UK Electoral Commission report recommended the abolition of deposits, or if retained that the threshold for forfeiture be reduced from 5 per cent to 2 per cent. They also recommended abolition of the subscriber system for all elections.
The report argued the chances of a person being elected should not be a relevant factor in determining the legitimacy of their candidacy and unnecessary hurdles should not be placed in the way of a citizen going forward for election in the public interest.
The distinction between serious and joke or frivolous candidates was a judgement best left to the electorate. The financial constraint of a deposit they regarded as an outdated and inappropriate imposition on the democratic process, relying, as it does, on an individual’s financial standing or ability to raise additional funds.
The report noted international experience lent weight to the notion that deposits are an impediment to a citizen’s democratic right to stand for election. A large number of European countries do not have deposit systems, nor are they applicable in the USA.
What irritated PPC about the unprecedented number of candidates in the 2008 Senatorial election, and so called no hopers in June’s Senatorial by-election, is that some expressed dissenting voices. Also troubling power holders is the success of organised political groups representing the popular classes. What better way to eliminate dissent than create financial hurdles and exclusionary rules?
The poor are, by definition, also less well-connected and will struggle to obtain nominators from all Parishes in a socially divided Island.
Why should an impoverished man not stand for election, just because they say he won’t get elected? The classic example must be Norman Le Brocq, a man with wholly non-mainstream views, who ended up a committee president, national hero and with a fisheries vessel bearing his name.
PPC implicitly assumes that the only legitimate candidates are sitting States members and those with a long track record in community politics. In the past candidates have stood for Senator to raise some single issue, say in one parish. Shenton senior first stood because he could not sell his house at the price he wanted. Certain St Clement deputies have been elected with manifestos confined to parking issues. Are these frivolous criteria for being elected?
The States have shown that they are incapable of reforming themselves by consistently rejecting the democratic aspects of the Clothier reforms, leaving an arcane and antiquated institutional structure. If the system for electing Senators is creaking why not just abolish Senators? Clothier predicted these now apparent difficulties in an inherently contradictory system.
PPC’s tinkering with regulations must be set in the context of Jersey’s chronic 80 per cent electoral abstention. While 15,000 voted in the last Senatorial by-election, 40,000 did not and thousands of urban residents remain unregistered to vote.
PPC are blind to the fundamental problem, not of too many candidates or their calibre, but of too few voters. Low turnout is directly attributable to an antiquated electoral system and now PPC want to restrict candidates to only those who can be pre-selected as a safe pair of hands.
As a new elected Senator with much to prove in the short time before the next election, Francis Le Gresley may wish to reflect before endorsing PPC’s restrictive petty regulations as reasonable. At least, he and PPC should read the above-mentioned 2003 report.
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I don’t think Mr Le Cornu seems to understand that he has now stood on more than enough occassions to date and failed and thats not down to voter apathy. One day he will have to accept that his political views of Jersey are not as popular with voting public as he seems to think they are. Its time to gracefully accept defeat and disappear and that also goes for a few of the other serial election hopefuls we seem to see standing every time.
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I tend to agree with Paul here, we seem to see repeat hopefuls every time around and no matter how many voters turn up, the percentages always show they are not good enough. These proposals to get rid of the chuff from the wheat at election time are realistic.
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I always vote in elctions, but it is generally a decision as to who is the least worst, not who is the best.
It does not seem to matter, once they are in office they totally ignore what voters have said.
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All very well, Paul, but would you have the courage to stand?
Your comment focuses on the personal rather than the objective. I am sure that Mr le Cornu must have analysed the various election failures which have befallen him.
Read the letter again. If this deposit is brought in, then those who seek to promote it should do their homework. At this stage, it would seem that they have not researched the issue properly. It is a retrograde step which is ill at ease with democracy. It is also a surprising thing for new Senator le Gresley to raise. Although I am not a fan of solicitor Mr le Cornu’s policies either, he does in my view correctly identify that Le Gresley is trying to make a name for himself so that he will get back in again. How funny it would be if the deposit were to come in and Le Gresley himself were to get so few votes that he would lose any deposit!
It can only be a good thing that Mr le Cornu raises awareness of the issues which surround this most misguided and ill-informed proposition.
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Hi
Personally I’d stick the deposit at £2k; and limit the budget of those seeking elections to make it a more level playing field. Hopefully the deposit would be enough to deter repeat no hopers.
Eddy
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This reads like sour grapes to me from start to finish. Nick Le Cornu has been trying to get into the States for years but always ends up flat on his face because he simply isn’t good enough.
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Mr Le Cornu is absolutely right, if even 50% of hte population were to vote at the next elections we would get a dramatic change in the succesful candidartes.
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In the last by-election I thought the standard of almost all the people standing was very weak and I think a lot of people couldn’t be bothered voting on polling day after watching some of the Hustings. The best candidate won on the night though even though the turn out was poor.
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Jez; I don’t think it is sour grapes. At least he is trying to make a contribution. You can almost adnire his tenacity. It’s easy to knock him; at least he does something about it instead of moaning like a lot of people do.
I followed the last by-election closely. All the candidates seemed to be sincere. Who are we (or rather the states) to judge who is a joke candidate? We are always being told to get involved and we are always told to take more interest and to be less apathetic. This looks like a retrograde step to me. Pity “man of the people” (a big irony there) Le Gresley can’t see past the establishment line……
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Nick Le Cornu has stood in umpteen elections and has been well beaten so come on who is writing this supportive guff? He is a serial losing candidate.
I cannot see anything wrong with these proposals to put off time wasters in the elections just like him and others. The bottom results in the by-election were after all, dia.
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Manky, not sure what the supportive guff is. I can see one, possibly two posts above which seem to be “pro le cornu” but those appear on closer analysis really to concern the matter of the deposit rather than the merits of Mr le Cornu as a would-be politician.
Even if you take the two posts as supportive of the man as a candidate (which they are not) that would represent, out of the ten posts to date, a “vote” of only 20%. If you cast your mind back to the various elections at which Mr Le Cornu has been a candidate, you will see that he did receive some votes. I recall that, in one election, he received a considerable number of votes, in fact. It follows, therefore, that those who so voted are probably the source of the “supportive guff” which you apparently identify.
As has been said above, whether he gets in or not is almost immaterial. What counts is making the effort and standing up to be counted. Most people just moan from the comfort of their respective armchairs and then wonder why nothing changes. I have never voted for Mr Le Cornu, by the way, and probably wouldn’t do so in the future. It doesn’t stop one admiring him and those others who stand and indeed persevere even when they are not successful on a first or even subsequent occasion. It would be a pity if those who have an interest in the island were to be discouraged from standing for election. Let the people decide as they have always done, not some weak-willed newcomer who wants to pull up the drawbridge!
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Very well put Nick.Don`t give up and one day you will get there.
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