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truthseeker

Please……….

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bella

LOL
As if that will make any difference.
The wrong type of shops don’t help either.
Put some shops that every-one would benefit excluding home-ware,clothes etc there are enough of them in town already.

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small business

No ghosts & no customers

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Mike

ROFL Slow news day eh? Well, no harm done, unless the taxpayer had to foot the bill of course…

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Seriously Sam

She definitely missed a trick if Ms Hughes didn’t get paid by the states at least £120k for her consultation services in this vital matter !

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Leah Holmes

Such a brilliant end to a tough day.

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Pip Clement

“I know Mrs Hughes and putting everyone straight, she did NOT get paid for the work she did and it was set up by Constable Simon Crowcrofts personal assistant!”

Work?
She ambled around for a bit, scattered a few herbs, uttered an incantation or two and that was it.
Not exactly back breaking.
And she will have enquiries from people who want a bit of Romany Gypsy Magick!

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Spring Heeled Jack

Funny.
No ghosts but she still performed the ritual. Well actually didn’t perform the ritual as she was not allowed to burn some herbs.
Instead some herbs were sprinkled on the floor.
If there were any ghosts of lambs I bet they were real impressed with even more herbs being thrown around ( mint sauce anyone?).
No ghosts, no shops, no customers. Just a witch throwing some grass cuttings on the ground and making a bit of a mess.
Lucky she wasn’t carted off to the Royal Square for a bonfire of her own!
- where’s the witchfinder general when you need him ?

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Mona Lot

Take away the ghosts and there is absolutely nothing left!

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Toilet Cafes

It reminds me of the 1981 Specials tune “Ghost Town”. The irony, of course, is that the Waterfront, together with the antics of the states, is indeed set to render St Helier a “Ghost Town”. Perhaps we should invite the Specials over here to shoot a video in what is left of St Helier and they can re-release the tune.

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highway

Everything is always closed down there or not even finished ,its a ghost town there!! hee hee that corridor there all you see is tumble weed and a howling wind!! If ya want some ghost stuff get yourself down to the old norma jeans pub now varda heard lots of old spooky goings on there from about 10 years ago was there once years ago and the staff who lived there were saying all sorts then one day when having a pint with a friend she said she felt a bad presence there and that was after hearing spooky stories from staff, only then i let on that some strange things were going on in that building. Interesting stuff eh?

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Said as Seen

All people offering these ‘services’ are either deluded cranks or charlatans.

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jim

what a laugh watching this on channel report so no ghosts also no people buying only in jersey what a joke and it cost £30 million pounds to build

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Delta

Pretty ironic given how Liberty Wharf has already been described as a ghost town!

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Day V Lately

If they funnel the foot passenger daytrippers through from the harbour, then it will have some sort of future in the tourist season, but they might as well close it over winter!

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Pip Clement

I have heard that the rents are high compared with the town centre.
To my mind it was built in the expectation that the Esplanade Financial Quarter would be built.
Under the original master scheme that would be well under way now and a market of a thousand souls for ciabattas, skinny lattes, etc would be plonked right on it’s doorstep but sadly the best-laid schemes o’ mice an’ men gang aft agley an’ lea’e us nought but grief an’ pain for promis’d joy!

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Pip Clement

“Can someone explain why giving these people encouragement is a good thing?”

Why not?
It is a harmless bit of crankiness.
If people want to believe in the spirit in the sky her offerings are as good as any other with as much basis in fact.
Modern Wiccans seem like a harmless bunch of coves compared with some religions so why should outsiders care what they get up to?
They could get it Feng Shui’d next

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trinity hero

“Why not?
It is a harmless bit of crankiness.”

Because its not harmless. It is dangerous, because it is part of the mumbo-jumbofication of society and it leads to homeopathy, fear of nuclear energy, a belief in “the establishment” and all the other trappings of a dull mind and a weak spirit.

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Beans meanz *****

So Rhianna flew down to the abbatoir on a broomstick? Perhaps she could fly around the island and sprinkle some magic dust to get rid of all the nutters that charge around in there Range rovers flashing there lights up our backsides!

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Pip Clement

“Because its not harmless. It is dangerous, because it is part of the mumbo-jumbofication of society and it leads to homeopathy, fear of nuclear energy, a belief in “the establishment” and all the other trappings of a dull mind and a weak spirit.”

Well if you do not agree with religion then maybe you should look at the support of the Church of England by the parishes, the grants to the faith schools by the education department, the role of the Dean in the States and the fact that several members ran on the fact that they are regular attenders at the islands churches where bread and wine is converted either metaphorically or quite literally in to the body and blood of their god!
I do not believe in Rhianna’s charms and potions, homeopathy or Christianity but I know people who do. They can stick to their beliefs and I will stick to mine.
I have read the Golden Bough, a dated but interesting read in my teenage years and Fraser’s conclusions are quite radical for his time if you read between the lines of the somewhat veiled text.
I think a rational case can be made for and against nuclear energy. It depends on how you evaluate the risks and the potential of the alternatives.
Human beings are not totally rational. There is room for love and if you like a belief in a higher power alongside a belief in rationalism and human progress.
I have known men and women who were good scientists but believed in a god as well and I do not think that any of them possessed dull minds or weak spirits!

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Deep

@36 Trinity Hero

This piece was amusing enough before you belssed us all with your stern warning… ahem… “it leads to homeopathy”. I laughed so hard I nearly soiled myself. I agree, I had a friend once who got into the wrong crowd and experimented with homeopathy. It was touch and go but eventually we managed to get him off it and onto heroin, but it was a close one. Might you just be a little scared of a bit of free thinking and alternative approaches?

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trinity hero

Deep(42)
It’s not freethinking to believe in homeopathy. It is the opposite of freethinking, it is not thinking at all.

Being freethinking means looking at evidence and considering whether, on balance, the beliefs that have been socially imposed on you are valid. There is lots of evidence for the power of placebos, but none at all for homeopathy. In fact, only a totaly unquestioning and gullible mind could beleve in homeopathy.

I recommend you read “Bad Science” or “How Mumbo-Jumbo took over the world”. Then you might understand what “freethinking” means.

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bondit

It is great that Jersey still has space for people other than bankers etc.

Good for Rhianna Hughes, standing up for what she believes and proud of it.

Three cheers for Rhianna, who is just as likely to be correct as all these guffawing and braying critics.

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Ashley F

They used to slaughter cows in there – now they’re slaughtering businesses. Great to see the states maintain some continuity for a change.

Still can’t believe that they got this woman in. Whether it was just a bit of fun or not is irrelevant. The shopkeepers (both of them) wont be laughing about it when they’re 100 thousand pounds down and having to let their staff go.

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Pip Clement

“As GK Chesterton said: “When people stop believing in God, they don’t believe in nothing—they believe in anything.”

And is the belief in any one god more rational than belief in any other god?
There is no objective evidence for the existence of any god or life after death, the credible rational position is that there are no gods at all and death is the end.
A priest in any religion can have as many qualifications as they like, at the end of the day their stock in trade rests on no more than faith.
A Wiccan can reverence the earth and cosmos and life on this planet which is more than lies at the heart of most religions.
Personally I do not agree with her views but she is no more ridiculous than any other priest or shaman and she does not receive state supoport

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Catz Eye

“Though all society is founded on intolerance, all improvement is founded on tolerance”, wrote playwright George Bernard Shaw.

If one quality is the hallmark of an enlightened idividual or group, it is surely tolerance of different beliefs… and the right to peaceful expression of such by all.

To quote another famous phrase attributed to writer and philosopher Voltaire, the idea that ” I may disagree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it”, is a basic fundamental of human rights.

Today, willful ignorance and persecution of those holding alternative views then should be a memory from the dark ages, shouldn’t it? Apparently not always.

In her article published in the JEP on March 25, Paula Thelwell condemns the sensitivities of those possibly appalled when thinking of the Liberty Wharf shopping mall being in a location once the bloodied scene of mass animal slaughter and pokes a sarcastic attempt at derisory humour towards vegetarians and those of Wiccan and similar beliefs. Wiccans live by one overriding principal, summarised: ” and it
harm none, do as you will”. Surely this practice is temperance and tolerance itself and a courtesy that should at very least be returned. Vegetarianism is a life choice with benefits to the individual and many
would say, the planet. Both groups surely deserve consideration?

Had a Christian Blessing been performed upon a new building, as used to be a traditional amongst some when the corner stone was laid, would there be such redicule levied? Does anyone ever poke fun at the Blessing of The Fleet or Ploughs? Do not people of other beliefs deserve equal consideration? What harm can the peaceful cleansing rite which Rhianna Hughes (Galvin) performed do apart from evoke a hostile response from one person who appears not to take time to try to understand those who hold all life as precious including the lives of animals?

In the interests of this tolerance I advocate, I will defend Ms Thelwell’s right to expression but ironically, her own words may condemn her for her own apparent intolerance. In her criticism , has she not taken a
retrograde step towards those Medieval Times she spoke of when Dante wrote his masterpiece ” The Inferno” which she ironically quoted? At such times, many innocent people were burned at the stake for practice of healing arts others did not understand, a time of ruthless cruelty and hopeless intolerance. Perhaps in her harking back to such bigotry, those words “Abandon hope all ye who enter
here” may be more appropriately hung over Ms Thelwell’s office door?

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Pedigree Bean

Pip Clement, believe what u want to believe in, but leave others beliefs alone! We know what we believe in,experienced enough and enough said!
Mrs Hughes hasnt bad mouthed anyone, made money out of what she did, so whats the problem?
I have never seen so much bitching in this island, sad to be honest! Have a good day!

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Pip Clement

#54

Read my posts carefully.
I have poked a little fun at Rhianna Galvin but I have defended her right to believe in what she likes and stated that Wicca can be as valid as any other religion.
The Christians are happy with their bread and wine and she can dance around in the moonlight sprinkling herbs.
If anything, her religion sounds like more fun

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jersey spud

@57. Day V Lately – ‘why not believe in the right thing to start with’ ….
Spoken like a true Christian!! Have a little tolerance for other people will you……. how does it go again…. love thy neighbour?!?!?! I don’t believe in the improvable which is why I’m not a Christian or a Muslim or a Wiccan.

Personally I don’t believe in any of those things you mentioned but what I do believe is that everyone has the right to their own beliefs and to not be judged by other people. There was no harm whatsoever done by Rhianna and I hope she hasn’t had to read through the nasty, narrow minded comments posted on here by some people.

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God

@57

I suspect that you are suggesting that christianity is the “right thing”

If so please provide conclusive, physical, tangible, verifiable, testable, corroborated, ‘it would stand up in court’ type of evidence of the one you call christ (as opposed to pre-medieval, multi-edited, politically motivated stories or voices in your head).

If you cannot then christianity has no more credibility or validity than the other fairy stories.

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Adrian

At this rate there will be more doing that than workers before long, Laughing Cow, and Jersey doesn’t even have the EU to fall back on.

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