New plans for hotel site revert to tradition
Friday 27th May 2011, 2:58PM BST.
The new plans for the Grève de Lecq site where the Hotel des Pierres currently stands
PLANS to build a traditionally styled residential development on the site of a Grève de Lecq hotel have been submitted after a proposal to build a bold contemporary scheme was refused.
Mick Cotillard, managing director of Summit Developments, still wants to knock down Hotel des Pierres and build 13 flats over three storeys. He says that the new design is a ‘totally different’ one.
Last month Environment Minister Freddie Cohen refused the proposed scheme and questioned whether it fitted into such a traditional and sensitive area of Jersey.
The National Trust for Jersey also objected to the development, saying that it was overbearing and did not enhance the area.
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I wonder if there was an intention to build plan A or was it just an opening bid?
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Knock off a few storeys and it should be ok, but its still too big!
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Pip, I have a nasty feeling you may be right. There seems to be a very short time bettween the last presentation and the new one. So, will it be faced in granite ‘To fit into the ambience of the area’?
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“questioned whether it fitted into such a traditional and sensitive area of Jersey.”
You’re aving a larf aint yer Freddie !
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Is it just me or does this latest proposal look a little odd and a bit out of place? It looks like a student project rather than a serious scheme. Was it prepared by Highlands? (Probably not, they would have made a better job if it!)
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Why not just revert to tradition by leaving it there and renovating it?
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Why not build it in the shape of a Martello Tower?
That should be in keeping with the traditonal architecture of the area.
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Oh my goodness.From gull wing modernity to an ersatz town harbour double fronted warehouse with an empty featureless void in the centre, transplanted into the rural small port of Greve de Lecq.This latest offering beggars belief.It’s far worse than before.
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“Why not build it in the shape of a Martello Tower?
That should be in keeping with the traditonal architecture of the area.”
Or a tongue in check homage to the near by German fortifications?
This is particularly effective at Portelet where the development echoes the stunningly beautiful German ranging towers and batteries at Noirmont!
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Less offensive than the previous suggestion, but should only be 2 stories high.
However, I agree with 6. RENOVATE IT.
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Bland and horribly out of date. Looks like an airport motel – the budget type. Can’t blame the developer or the architect for that, it’s what you get when there is design by committee.
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still looks a bit big…
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Where will the visitors come from to occupy it?
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They’re taking the pi** with this design.
The attitude is obviously ‘We can’t have what we want so we’ll design something “traditional” that is equally ugly to show them’.
Looks like a prison or mental hospital to me.
Let’s tell them to go to hell and back.
The area needs something more sympathetic.
I would support the States purchasing the building to just demolish it and turn the area into parkland.
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R.B. #7, that would put them in competion with Jersey Tourism. There are now holidays advertised in the gun tower at Corbiere, various forts and the Barge Aground. But when you see the prices!
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#1 Pip is spot on … developers like these put in a ridiculous initial plan and know everyone will hate it and then put in their original plan and bank on everyone saying ‘well its better than the first one’ and so get what they planned all along! Its classic developers ploy! We shouldnt fall for it … this is OUR island and not theirs and not Cohens to do as he sees fit and we should only settle for what we want … unless we do that we will always be complaining about bad developments and watching out Island disappear under concrete!
We need to stand up to the developers and Planning and tell them this is OUR Island and we will dictate what is built and where.
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Truth is Cohen the Barbarian would have been happy with the Horrid glass dart…so this ploy must have been aided and abeeted by him whaich shows the full extent of his architectural innadequacies…and sums up what he thinks Jersey ought to look like …Freddie how much will it take before it dawns on you WE DON’T WANT YOU..RESIGN.
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It’s still Horrible and too big….Greed over taste Mr Cotillard…..how much money do you want to make despoiling a superb coastal cove…..the thing about natural beauty is this…when it’s gone …it’s gone and they ain’t makin’ any more so insensitive and self centred some developers…and freddie you have helped them go now.
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“New plans for hotel site revert to tradition”
And what tradition would that be then? The recent one of “Build bigger, Build Ugly”?
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Just because the developer wants to build 13 flats why should he be able too?
Planning and ENVIRONMENT need to get some cajones and start saying.. two stories maximum, x no sq. feet, soft/green landscaping and x no of units.
Sick to the back teeth of seeing huge developments surrounded by tarmac that are investments for non islanders or property funds.
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I was thinking about demolishing and replacing MY old ugly cold and leaking 1960′s house on MY property using MY money, not to improve MY property or add value to it, and not because it is a stinking and derelict eye sore of no architectural merit and needs replacing rather than renovating, but simply because i love this island of ours and feel i want to give something back out of my own pocket. So i get my architect to approach planning and they tell him to go for something bold and modern. BUT NO! We must not despoil this island with such rubbish – i’m sure my fellow islanders would all agree! So, i ask my poor architect at great personal expense for something in granite because i wouldn’t want anyone posting anything negative on the internet. Just to make sure, i had a little look and see what people have to say on other currently proposed developments – suddenly a revelation! It seems i can’t carry out any development because suddenly the whole island belongs to No 16 Green Bean. When did that happen? I never saw any money go into my bank account? As if it is not bad enough that Planning tell me what the design must look like, but suddenly everyone and their dog has an architecture degree and knows exactly how much time and effort goes into the whole process! If that’s the case, i say abolish planning fees, and the States should subsidise architect’s and engineer’s fees and pay for all construction work to my house, because now the whole Island belongs to all of us! Hooray!
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There should be some presumption of like for like in the planning process when an existing building is replaced.
The current building is a small two story building facing the road, the replacement faces the sea, is at least twice the size and three stories.
Similarly the huge constructions at Portelet and La Coupe would have been avoided.
You should not be able to knock down a two bedroom cottage, dig away half the cliff behind it and replace it with a five story blue glass tower!
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